Re: White House says Zarqawi among dead - "Highly unlikely"
- From: Cap'n Fishlips <out@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 05:23:04 GMT
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:18:38 -0500, "Joe S." <anon@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>"Cap'n Fishlips" <out@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> White House Doubts al-Zarqawi Among Dead
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>> Nov 20, 7:58 PM (ET)
>> By ROBERT H. REID
>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - U.S. forces sealed off a house in the northern
>> city of Mosul where eight suspected al-Qaida members died in a
>> gunfight - some by their own hand to avoid capture. The White House
>> said Sunday that it was "highly unlikely" that the terror leader Abu
>> Musab al-Zarqawi was among the dead.
>> Insurgents, meanwhile, killed an American soldier and a Marine in
>> separate attacks over the weekend, and a British soldier was killed by
>> a roadside bomb in the south.
>> On Saturday, police Brig. Gen. Said Ahmed al-Jubouri said the raid was
>> launched after a tip that top al-Qaida operatives, possibly including
>> al-Zarqawi, were in the house in the northeastern part of the city.
>> During the intense gunbattle that followed, three insurgents detonated
>> explosives and killed themselves to avoid capture, Iraqi officials
>> said. Eleven Americans were wounded, the U.S. military said. Such
>> intense resistance often suggests an attempt to defend a high-value
>> But Trent Duffy, a White House spokesman, said reports of al-Zarqawi's
>> death were "highly unlikely and not credible."
>> American soldiers controlled the site Sunday, and residents said
>> helicopters flew over the area throughout the day. Some residents said
>> the tight security was reminiscent of the July 2003 operation in which
>> Saddam Hussein's sons, Odai and Qusai, were killed in Mosul.
>> The elusive al-Zarqawi has narrowly escaped capture in the past. U.S.
>> forces said they nearly caught him in a February 2005 raid that
>> recovered his computer.
>> In May, the group said he was wounded in fighting and was taken out of
>> the country for treatment. Within days, it reported he had returned -
>> though there was never any independent confirmation that he was
>> The U.S. soldier killed Sunday near the capital was assigned to the
>> Army's Task Force Baghdad and was hit by small arms fire, the military
>> said. The Marine, assigned to Regimental Combat Team 8, 2nd Marine
>> Division, died of wounds suffered the day before in Karmah, a village
>> outside Fallujah to the west of the capital.
>> In the southern city of Basra, a roadside bomb killed a British
>> soldier and wounded four others, the British Ministry of Defense said.
>> The ministry said 98 British soldiers have died in Iraq.
>> The U.S. military also said Sunday that 24 people - including another
>> Marine and 15 civilians - were killed the day before in an ambush on a
>> joint U.S. Iraqi patrol in Haditha, 140 miles northwest of Baghdad in
>> the volatile Euphrates River valley.
>> The three American deaths brought to at least 2,093 the number of U.S.
>> service members who have died since the war began in March 2003,
>> according to an Associated Press count.
>> Meanwhile, four women were killed Sunday night when gunmen stormed
>> their home in a Christian district of eastern Baghdad, police said,
>> adding that valuables were stolen and the motive for the attack
>> appeared to have been robbery.
>> The latest deaths occurred at the end of a violent three-day period in
>> which at least 140 Iraqi civilians died in a series of bombings and
>> suicide attacks - most targeting Shiite Muslims.
>> The victims included 76 people who died Friday in near-simultaneous
>> suicide bombings at two Shiite mosques in Khanaqin and 36 more killed
>> the next day by a suicide car bomber who detonated his vehicle amid
>> mourners at a Shiite funeral north of the capital.
>> In Washington, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Sunday on
>> ABC's "This Week" that commanders' assessments will determine the pace
>> of any military drawdown. About 160,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq as the
>> country approaches parliamentary elections Dec. 15.
>> The Pentagon has said it plans to scale back troop strength to its
>> pre-election baseline of 138,000, depending on conditions. Rumsfeld
>> said the U.S.-led coalition continues to make progress in training
>> Iraqi security forces, which he placed at 212,000.
>> Rumsfeld also said talk in the United States of a quick withdrawal
>> from Iraq plays into the hands of the insurgents.
>> "The enemy hears a big debate in the United States, and they have to
>> wonder maybe all we have to do is wait and we'll win. We can't win
>> militarily. They know that. The battle is here in the United States,"
>> he told "Fox News Sunday."
>> In Cairo, Egypt, Iraq's president said Sunday he was ready for talks
>> with anti-government opposition figures and members of Saddam
>> Hussein's outlawed Baath Party, and he called on the Sunni-led
>> insurgency to lay down its arms and join the political process.
>> But President Jalal Talabani, attending an Arab League-sponsored
>> reconciliation conference, insisted that the Iraqi government would
>> not meet with Baath Party members who are participating in the
>> Sunni-led insurgency.
>> "I am the president of Iraq and I am responsible for all Iraqis. If
>> those who describe themselves as Iraqi resistance want to contact me,
>> they are welcome," Talabani told reporters. "I want to listen to all
>> Iraqis. I am committed to listen to them, even those who are criminals
>> and are on trial."
>> Talabani made clear in his remarks, however, that he would talk with
>> insurgents and "criminals" only if they put down their weapons.
>> In Baghdad, hundreds of Sunnis demanded an end to the torture of
>> detainees and called for the international community to pressure Iraqi
>> and U.S. authorities to ensure that such abuse does not occur.
>> Anger over detainee abuse has increased sharply since U.S. troops
>> found 173 detainees at an Interior Ministry prison in Baghdad's
>> Jadriyah neighborhood. The detainees, mainly Sunnis, were found
>> malnourished and some had torture marks on their bodies. Sunni Arabs
>> dominate the insurgent ranks.
>> Iraq's Shiite-led government has promised an investigation and
>> punishment for anyone guilty of torture.
>> Associated Press reporters Katherine Shrader in Washington, Sinbad
>> Ahmed in Mosul and Qassim Abdul-Zahra in Baghdad contributed to this
>Let's see if I got this right.
>Earlier today, someone posted a claim that Zarkawi may be among the dead.
>Then, one of the braindead rightwing nutcases on this NG posted an article
>titled "Liberals In A Panic Over Possible Zarkawi Death."
>Now comes the White House stating they don't believe he's dead. So, I
>assume this makes the White House one of the liberals who is in a panic --
>after all, they are the ones denying the initial report.
>Thanks for clearing up that point.
Funny how the right..gets their panties in a bunch ..isn't it?...LOL
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