Re: Can Senator Obama Avoid His Iraq Trap?



On Jul 16, 1:18 pm, John Black <jbl...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <001d63fc-a04f-49de-9c33-dc0599ed10d5
@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, josefsop...@xxxxxxxxx says...





Even a press which has been deemed by many to be gaga for Obama will
likely report what Gen. Petraeus, the outgoing senior commander in
theater and General Odierno, his replacement will advise. And that
will be to not set an arbitrary date certain. They won't point out
directly that Obama is doing exactly what he has charged Bush with
doing, but anyone paying attention will know.

So what will Senator Obama do? On the one hand he doesn't want to set
up a situation in which he appears a hypocrite by ignoring their
advice after making so much about the value of it. To do so might
satisfy his extreme left base, the MoveOn.org crowd which sees the war
as immoral and doesn't care what promises have to be broken to get out
of Iraq. It won't matter to them that Obama is doing exactly what they
charged the Bush Administration with doing since even before the war.

But for the political center it will matter. Recent polls show that
above all other government institutions the military is respected and
trusted. Petraeus is seen by the majority of Americans as a real, live
hero. MoveOn.org found that out the hard way when a move to vilify
Petraeus was met with a powerful backlash. However, Petraeus is the
outgoing commander having been reassigned to take over CENTCOM later
this year in a nearly unanimous Senate vote.

Obama will have to continue to talk out of both sides of his mouth and
hope it works.  He opposed the surge and said it wouldn't work.  He has
since taken that rhetoric off of his website and is now saying he always
knew it would work.  He secured the nomination by advocating immediate
withdrawl (compared to Clinton's more reasonable and serious approach),
and now is saying exactly what Bush has said -- conditions on the ground
will dictate.  After these flip flops, and FISA, faith based initiatives
he is just going to end up looking like McCain only far less
experienced.

John Black- Hide quoted text -

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A man who flip-flaps as much as Obama does has no
bedrock principles. Our finest presidents have
been true to their principles and stood their
ground. Obama comes across as a man who will say
anything he thinks his audience wants him to say
and says whatever he thinks will win him the
election. He obviously thinks the American voter
is as stupid as an adobe brick which only serves
to show how arrogant the man is.
.



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