Re: Bleak numbers for the Grand Old Party....

Phisher King wrote:
Christian Williamson <c.willi@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/11/AR20080
11103279.html for a solid argument that Republicans are in trouble in
the presidential race. At the very least George Will points out the
weaknesses of the Republicans this time around even if he doesn't
point out the weaknesses of the Dems when compared to a specific
Republican candidate.

I've always respected George Will's analysis of the political landscape, though I rarely agree with him. Here he says what I, and others, have been saying for a long time in this group.

You'll have to point to the posts where you've been saying what Will says in this column. You've trashed the Republican party, for sure, but trashing the party is a lot different from providing analysis about why it will lose in 2008.

The GOP has been sucking on the wrong teat for too long a time and has lost it's true identity.

What "teat" has it been sucking on that's wrong, and what's its true identity?

And how does your language apply to Democrats? For example, do you go back to the founding of the country, when Democrats were big state's rights people and strongly in favor of slavery to find its true identity?

(I actually was an early supporter of Barry Goldwater back in 64.

OK. Do you remember why you supported him? Were you in favor of crushing the Communists?

But, back then, I was a callow youth and had not yet had a proper education, afterwhich I became a Progressive Liberal.)

What was the "proper education" that caused you to switch to "Progressive Liberal"?

In any case, the republican party as it exists today cannot stand.

Are you saying that the party may split up, fall apart, give up the ghost? And what is it that causes you to say it cannot stand? And what makes it the case that Democrats CAN stand?

I've said it before, specifically to you Chris, ya gotta change your ways. You are too ideologically entrenched. You have no flexibility. You can't see that there is another side of the coin.

What "ways" need changing? And what evidence do you have of my being ideologically entrenched and having no flexibility? And how is "inflexibility" different from "principled stand"? And what causes you to say that I can't "see that there is another side of the coin"?

Example: Take a coin and hold it out and look at it flat so you only see the edge. Often, that is the way you look at things. You think that's all there is. You turn the coin one way and you see a larger object. Hold it close and you see all kinds of detail. Turn it over. A whole different picture. And the closer you look at each side the more differences you see. Look microscopically and there are lots of pits and scratches. The older the coin, the more wear and more differences from side to side. And every coin is different. And so with so many issues in life and very much the way of the Middle East.
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