Re: Republicans and immigration

Gas prices are hurting illegal forks more than anyone...Do not think illegal
folks will vote GOP regardless of what they do...

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Why gas is high at:
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060428/44519340_3ca6_1552620060428-181273844

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

Terrorism can never be erased with force...With force you create more
terrorist... by Jennie

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Traitors is DC. A traitor is one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a
trust, especially one who commits treason.

Bush has awakened us, the poor and middle class Americans...We are watching
and waiting to cast our votes...

The Constitution says "We the People" not "We the Special Interest Groups."

Americans Vote!


"Jennie" <hnix@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:hbGdnUHhOZS4Xv7ZRVn-ig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gas, wire taps, Iraq, immigration, poor tax break for the middle class and
poor. All will get the GOP. The bad part is they are to stupid to realize
it...so out of touch with reality...

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Why gas is high at:
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060428/44519340_3ca6_1552620060428-181273844

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

Terrorism can never be erased with force...With force you create more
terrorist... by Jennie

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps,
snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Traitors is DC. A traitor is one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a
trust, especially one who commits treason.

Bush has awakened us, the poor and middle class Americans...We are
watching and waiting to cast our votes...

The Constitution says "We the People" not "We the Special Interest
Groups."

Americans Vote!


"Jennie" <hnix@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:tsydne5jg6QMX_7ZRVn-jw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Both sides need to loose but democrats will still be in control...

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Why gas is high at:
http://enews.earthlink.net/article/int?guid=20060428/44519340_3ca6_1552620060428-181273844

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm

Terrorism can never be erased with force...With force you create more
terrorist... by Jennie

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps,
snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Traitors is DC. A traitor is one who betrays one's country, a cause, or a
trust, especially one who commits treason.

Bush has awakened us, the poor and middle class Americans...We are
watching and waiting to cast our votes...

The Constitution says "We the People" not "We the Special Interest
Groups."

Americans Vote!


"jose" <josefsoplar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1147386384.606114.304850@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Republicans and immigration
By Thomas Sowell

May 11, 2006


Maybe some recent polls will put some backbone into Senate Republicans.
But don't bet the rent money on it.

The percentages vary a little from poll to poll, as is usually the
case, but these polls agree on one thing -- the public's top priority
on the immigration issues is controlling the borders. They prefer the
tougher bill passed by the House of Representatives to the weaker
approach of the Senate.

The House of Representatives bill has been depicted in much of the
media as harsh or draconian, as if it is a terrible thing to make
illegal entry into this country a crime. The House bill is what is
supposed to have sparked massive protest demonstrations around the
country by illegal aliens and their supporters.

Those demonstrations may have impressed the media and intimidated
politicians but they didn't change many minds among the American
people. A majority of Republicans, Democrats, and independents all
favor the tougher House bill. The percentages differed among these
groups but they were all majorities.

What is really striking is that 53 percent of Hispanics supported the
House bill. The loudmouths at the demonstrations did not speak for all
Hispanics.

On this issue, as on some others, the Democrats in Congress are more
united than the Republicans, even though the Republicans have a
majority in both Houses. But a united minority can often defeat a
divided majority.

As things stand at the moment on the immigration issue, the Democrats
clearly have the upper hand politically as this year's elections
approach.

The Democrats can solidify their base behind amnesty. But the
Republicans' base -- 81 percent of whom are behind the tougher House
bill -- are undermined, if not demoralized, by the vacillation of the
Senate Republicans and the Bush administration on strong border
control, apparently out of fear of alienating Hispanic voters.

In view of the latest polls, it is not clear how many Hispanic voters
are going to be alienated. The greater danger is that the Congressional
Republicans will alienate their own supporters.

The irony in all this is that the Republicans could turn the tables on
the Democrats and put them on the defensive, instead of being on the
defensive themselves.

There is no reason other than politics why amnesty and border control
have to be in the same bill. It will take time to see how various new
border control methods work out in practice and there is no reason to
rush ahead to deal with the people already illegally in this country
before the facts are in on how well the borders have been secured.

Separate border control legislation would force the Democrats to stand
up and be counted on this issue, without the political cover of a
package deal. Some of the more weak-kneed Republicans also want this
political cover but taking away the package deal would do far more
damage to the Democrats.

Legislation dealing solely -- and seriously -- with border control
might be difficult for some Congressional Republicans to vote for but
it would be a political nightmare for the Democrats in Congress. And a
bill takes just 51 votes to pass in the Senate.

Unfortunately, President Bush has pushed the package deal and used the
straw man argument that we cannot find and deport millions of people,
even though virtually no one has said that we could.

The real question is whether sweeping the illegal alien problem under
the rug by calling them legal will bring in still more millions of
illegals, as a previous amnesty has already done. Nor will calling
amnesty by some other name do anything more than undermine the
confidence of the American people in general and the Republican base in
particular.

Sometimes caution is the most dangerous policy. General MacArthur once
defined defensive warfare in one word: "Defeat."

Frankly, the Republicans deserve to lose this fall's election, after
their wild spending and pandering to economic ignorance on gas prices.
But a Republican defeat would only bring in the Democrats -- and the
country does not deserve anything that disastrous. The Democrats' petty
obstruction and irresponsible demagoguery in wartime disqualifies them
for national leadership when a nuclear Iran and nuclear terrorists loom
on the horizon.







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