Re: The Price of Complacency

"jose" <josefsoplar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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The problem isn't religious it's social. The islamic men in third world
countries use Islam as a way to keep their power and status exactly the
same way southern American white males used christainity to keep their
power. They both perverted their religions to support their belief of
superiority when in fact all it proved is their insecurity and stupidity.

The reason why the islamic fundies don't want any western influence in
their countries isn't because of religious reasons - that's just the
excuse - as anyone who has lived in that region knows. The reason is that
they can not maintain their total control over their wives and children
if they are allowed to see, hear and read how much better it is for both
in western societies.

9/11 was not the beginning of a war anymore than the Oklahoma bombing
was. It's important for the United States to act decisively and pound the
perpetrator's dicks in the dirt. But it's also important for the United
States to not act like a coward and just strike out blindly like a little
girl in a school yard fight. Instead of remaining above the act we
decended down to the level of the cowards that committed 9/11. We
assigned them super powers and scared ourselves right out of 250 years of
democracy and individual rights.

Was it the act of cowards, incompetence or a calculated power grab I
don't know and we might never know.

One thing should be certain to anyone by now is that it was one of the
three.


Man, you really need to travel to the mid east and get this irrational
fear of islam out of your system. They are third world idiots that use
Islam like a book of magic. They may prey to Mecca all day long but
everyone of them that can afford it travels to places like Dubai and
break every one of their rules every chance they get.

In fact, come to think of it, no other people on the planet reminded me
more of our Southern Baptists than the Islamic tribesmen in the mid east.
They are just as hypocritical, cowardly, just as intolerant, treat their
women like *** and if they drank sweet tea you'd swear you were in a
enclave of racists, sexists, Baptists. Hell they both even have quite a
history of *** wearing.



I might agree with you if I thought that
Islamofascism could be contained in the middle
east to prey only on Muslims. 9-11 proved that to
be wishful thinking. If we withdraw now we will
face an even more deadly threat from a far
stronger evil movement bent on conquering the
world and subjugating all under sharia law.


Chief wrote:
"jose" <josefsoplar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:1146522559.359771.232630
@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

The American left has been too busy lying about
Bush and the Republicans to appreciate the threat
the Islamofascists are to the their fellow
Americans. I tremble to think of what devastation
and the great pile of American corpses we would
have suffered if those two inept, bloviating
blowhards, Gore and Kerry, had won their
elections.

The Price of Complacency

By Joel Mowbray
FrontPageMagazine.com | May 1, 2006

"Complacency is probably the worst thing that can happen to us,"
notes first-time actor Ben Sliney, the man who ordered the
nationwide grounding of all planes on September 11. He plays
himself in the new movie United 93, which opened Friday.


Yet complacency seems to have crept slowly into American society in
the past four and a half years as the terrorist attacks fade from
our collective memory. Many fear that it will take another strike
on U.S. soil to jolt Americans into action.



Anyone who sees United 93, however, will be jolted.



Painstaking research by writer-director Paul Greengrass (Bourne
Supremacy) is evident on-screen, culminating in a finished product
that is perhaps the best educated guess as to what actually
transpired on the plane that crashed into a Pennsylvania field
instead of the Capitol. Mr. Greengrass and his crew interviewed
members of the 9/11 Commission, government personnel who were
directly involved that day, and over 100 family members of the 40
passengers and crew aboard flight 93.



Gripping, raw, and gut-wrenching are all words that have been used
to describe United 93 in early reviews, and all fit. Yet as
powerful and deeply affecting as the film is, it is hard to imagine
any one movie making any discernible impression on the public
consciousness.



The terrorist threat in 2006 is not likely lower than it was in
2001, yet many act as if the potential for suffering an attack here
is as remote as most believed it was on September 10. Senate
Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) last year famously bragged that
the Democrats had "killed the Patriot Act." Around the same time,
Democrats and even some Republicans spewed hyperbolic rhetoric
about the NSA warrantless eavesdropping of individuals with direct
or indirect ties to terror.



Reasonable people can disagree on the Patriot Act or the NSA
eavesdropping, but no rational person can argue-as many Democrats
did-that either represented a lethal threat to our liberties. We
are at war. No, we have not been asked to ration, buy war bonds,
register for a draft, or make any other major collective sacrifice.
That doesn't change the reality of what we face, but it probably
does make it seem a little less real.



Reminders abound of how real this struggle is. Just this week,
Hamid Hayat, a 23-year-old U.S. citizen of Pakistani origin, was
convicted of material support for terrorism for traveling to his
ancestral homeland to attend a terror training camp. This came
just four months after the conviction of Abu Ali, the U.S. citizen
who was the valedictorian of the Northern Virginia-based Saudi
Academy, for plotting to assassinate President George W. Bush.
Those are only the most recent cases.



In the past four and a half years, we've had terror arrests,
deportations, and convictions across the country. The mainstream
media has largely ignored most of these cases, meaning that those
who know about them have sought out the information on the Internet
or possibly talk radio. But the combination of lack of coverage
about law enforcement's success and the thankful lack of success by
would-be terrorists has resulted in many Americans feeling less and
less threatened. 9/11 just isn't as salient anymore.



While almost any write-up of United 93 discusses the closing shot
of the plane nose-diving into the Earth, most significant is the
film's opening scene of one of the terrorists dutifully praying.
The movie, in other words, alluded to the nature of the enemy we
face.



Though we are not at war with everyone who practices Islam, it is
not insignificant that those who declared war on us did so in the
name of Islam. We are not simply at war with those who engage in
warfare that can be described as terrorism. And we are not merely
at war with those who commit terrorism in the name of Islam. We
are up against huge swaths of the Muslim world that want the
establishment of the worldwide Islamic state and either support or
tolerate terrorism as a means to do so. This latter front is
particularly tricky, since it cannot be fought by the military.



What's the solution? That's what we as a nation must determine.
But the answer isn't simply to ignore the enormity of the problem.



Not that Hollywood hasn't tried that tack. Tinseltown's recent
track record-TV shows and movies are still home to vastly more
neo-Nazis than Islamic terrorists-indicates that the entertainment
biz will not anytime soon follow its own actions during World War
II, when there was no disguising of the enemy.



No one film, even one as mesmerizing as United 93, is likely to
impact significantly public awareness. That's a shame, because
this movie not only memorializes the heroism of flight 93, but it
serves as a potent reminder of the price of complacency.



Jose, you really need to re evaluate your fear of Islam. They are not
scary people unless you turn your back to a group of 50 armed
mislamic men and are an unarmed female with a limp. Personally I
don't care a flip about their well being but I do care about
Americans' being sent to fight in a POS hellhole for some ideal that
won't ever come about because there are no good guys to fight for in
the Mid East. They are all crappy people with the typical third world
non existent value of human life. They don't give a *** about the
form of government they use to steal from their people with - why
should we? Especially since it's almost certain that any Government
in Iraq will always be a islamic government and at best a democracy
in name only.

Here's what we should do, move the remaining US military to the
border area of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Find and kill Osama bin
Laden and his buddies. Then leave the mid east to it's own devices
and spend the 40 billion a year we would have spend in Iraq
developing alternatives to petroleum so we won't be involved in the
squabbles over the oil in the mid east that are certain to take place
in the future as China's, India's and Pakistan's demands grow and the
supply dwindles.

The prospects of a nuke bursting over a major oil field in the mid
east are more real now than they have ever been with Russia, India,
Pakistan, China, and Israel all holding nukes and all eye balling
each other.

If it was a bar, any smart man would drink up and leave because a
fight is brewing and we have no worthwhile stake in it.



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