Re: possible end to jpeg v raw debate

On 2011-02-04 17:24:35 -0800, Peter N <peter.new@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

On 2/4/2011 6:47 PM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 08:13:30 -0500, Peter N<peternew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
: On 2/3/2011 10:02 PM, Savageduck wrote:
:> On 2011-02-03 18:50:40 -0800, Robert Coe<bob@xxxxxxxx> said:
:>
:>> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 22:48:29 +0100, Wolfgang Weisselberg
:>> <ozcvgtt02@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>> : Peter N<peternew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>> :> If this format performs as claimed and it adapted, it could end
:>> the debate.
:>> :
:>> :> Claim: lossless JPEG.
:>> :
:>> :>
:>> <http://www.sdtimes.com/content/resources.aspx?ShowOnlyResourceID=400&RefID=SpecialNeeds2.2>
:>>
:>

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:>>
:>> You are aware that at least Canon's RAW is already compressed by the
:>> : lossless JPEG method?
:>> :
:>> : In other news, the new century began on the first of January 1901.
:>>
:>> Indeed it did. And I won't embarrass you by suggesting that you don't
:>> know
:>> that it wasn't *this* new century. ;^)
:>>
:>> Bob
:>
:> Yup! That was January 1, 2001.
:>
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: January 1, 2000.

Bzzzzzzt!! 2000 was the last year of the twentieth century. You could say it's
the year after which the twentieth century was named.

Bob

A century is a span of 100 years. The fist year is completed at the end of the year 1, not the beginning.

The first year of any century is year #1, it does not have to be complete in order to be that first year.
Since we are all using what is currently termed the "Common Era" (CE) or for those less secular with a Christian habit, 1CE or 1AD was the first year of the first century CE. There was no 0 CE/AD. If you add 100, we get to 101CE/AD as the first year of the second century.

The old terminology BC is now BCE, so the year before 1 CE/AD was 1 BCE/BC. There was no 'tweener year of 0 BCE/BC/CE/AD.

Now we have all the confusion of the switch from the Julian to the Gregorian calendars, and a little debate as to which was 1 CE/AD. considering the concept only came about some 525 years after the alleged transition from BCE to CE, and then the calendar used was the Diocletian calendar
So if we accept everything as normalized with a good starting point, once we get to 1900, the last year of the 19th Century (1801 + 100 = 1901 not 1900)

2000 as the first year of the 21st Century only works if there was a 0 CE/AD. (0 + 100 =100 or as you would have it 1900 + 100 = 2000). However, we know there was never a 0 CE/AD so you are a year short using your method, and 2000 was the last year of the Twentieth Century.

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Regards,

Savageduck

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