Re: Why are Digital camera images made wrong?
- From: "DM" <dM@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 12:02:19 -0600
Also,
All of my labs print 8X12s at very little additional cost over an 8X10.
Maybe some won't but most professional labs should offer it.
"DM" <dM@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:q%%3i.21$Oe2.3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Not to argue with you, but why don't frame makers have a 8X12 as as
standard size? Most common print is a 4X6. Double that without cropping
and you have an 8X12. Go to Wal Mart and try to find one and you'll go
home empty handed. Just a thought.
"Frank Arthur" <Art@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"DBLEXPOSURE" <pzig98@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well Patrick Ziegler. I don't buy your story because it doesn't make
"Frank Arthur" <Art@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Digital camera manufacturers provide images with a 2:3 proportion
yet no paper manufacturers produce paper with the same proportion
(with the exception of the 4x6 size prints)?
If Photo Paper is available in 4:5 proportions why aren't the camera
manufacturers producing CMOS sensors to match the paper?
The excuse the paper industry is not geared to produce 8 x 12 Photo
Paper
because it is too expensive to switch over to that size what excuse can
camera manufacturers have to change the CMOS to match the available
papers?
Frank,
Forgive me but I am going to repost what I said in the other thread, Why
no 8X12.
In addition and in answer to your question, $$$. Seriously, would go
out and invest in an entirely new bag of gear, lens and all, so you
could more efficiently fit every pixel on the page and not have to trim
paper? I'm guessing that if the camera manufacturers even gave this any
thought that they came up with the answer that most wouldn't.
I use to lament and grumble over this issue as well. Then I came to the
conclusion that it doesn't matter. After that epiphany I found I was
free
of the impossible goal of trying to achieve harmony between the aspect
ratio
of a 35mm frame or digital sensor and the paper products and dime store
frames that are available.
I found that the world doesn't fit neatly into any of these human
conceived
ratios anyway so why fight it.
Crop and trim, is what I say. If you are going to print the next
logical
step is to put it in a frame and if your going to do that, you might as
well
choose a decent archive quality mat too; both of which are almost always
custom cut.
Make your print, frame and mat fit your composition rather than trying
to
compose your image to fit stock, precut printing and framing products.
I understand to compulsion to use every pixel, after all you did pay for
them. Liberate yourself, get out that crop tool and find harmony, (I
know,
you have been told over and over again to crop in the camera, me too and
I
do when it works).
Imagine walking into a gallery and the walls are not adorned with the
standard aspect ratio frames but oddities like 4:1 or even 7:1 or God
forbid, 1:1. Once you free yourself from the paper stock paradigm a
whole
new world of creativity opens up to you. Choose whatever aspect ratio
works
for the image at hand.
If it is worthy of a print then it is worthy of a custom cut frame and
mat.
I use AmericanFrame.com, they will print any aspect ratio I want, if
it's
just going in the portfolio, 8.5 X 11 is fine with me, I'll make my odd
aspect ratios fit inside those dimensions and I will still have the
dramatic
effect and the harmony.
Patrick Ziegler
www.imagequest.ifp3.com
sense.
You may accept your compromise and additional expenditure on custom
frames and
mounts because Cameras and Photo Paper are not made for each other.
There is no reason why I should have to spend $1000 or more on a Digital
camera
and not expect to be able to compose and fill the frame exactly as I see
it. Why
can't camera manufacturers design a camera to match existing paper sizes
if
paper manufacturers will not cut paper to match?
.
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