Re: Tobacco/diet and exercise/Fibro

Well Rosie:-) Dang it all girl but you know that's just YOUR opinion:-)
Even the leading authority on FM/CMP D. Starlanyl will tell you otherwise
about diet and gentle exercise:-) Not wanting to argue with you, just
telling you that opinions are just that, opinions and if anyone decides to
do their own homework and try to limit their symptoms or flares by trying
what she suggests in her book, Fibromyalgia and Chronic Myofascial Pain then
they should do just that. No one ever gets any better by just sitting around
and moping about it. Or zonking themselves into oblivion with narcotics
either. If you don't believe that it works then fine, that's your belief.
I know different for my own experience. Obviously others do too. One thing
I know about medicine and science..........you can never say "always" and
you can never say "never"..........cuz someone will prove you wrong. Just
my 2 cents.

Carol J

"Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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What's the connection between tobacco use and Fibro? None. If you smoke
and quit will you help ease your FM symptoms? Maybe, but probably not.

I quit tobacco over 2 1/2 years ago. Did I have any easing of the number
and severity of my FM flares? Not at all. So I can give you anecdotal
evidence that quitting tobacco doesn't help you with FM pain. It's only an
anecdote from me and you can take it or leave it as an opinion, a story. Not
scientific evidence.

Quitting tobacco has helped my overall health but did nothing FM wise. It
helped my costochondritis pain because I'm not attempting to coff up a lung
each day...and costo is often centered in the chest area so there is a
direct physical reason for cause and effect there.

But smoking doesn't cause FM. All smokers don't come down with FM. Not
even most get FM. A minority of smokers do get FM. Cessation of smoking,
therefore, is not a treatment for FM pain. Not a cause so don't expect the
effect when you improve thru quitting. It's good to quit for other reasons;
but relief from the pain of FM isn't one of 'em.

The same illogical cause/effect relationship is given here between diet
and exercise and FM pain. Our local diet/exercise/supplements Taliban will
try to tell you there is a direct correlation between quality of diet,
physical fitness and type of supplementation consumed and FM pain. There is
no such thing and don't believe it for a second. If there were everyone who
is obese or not physically fit and nutritionally not optimized ought to have
quite a few of our FM symptoms and they don't. Not even most. A few
do...similar to the # of smokers with FM as to the population of smokers as
a whole.

Do it if you will...but don't do it as a treatment for FM. That's
fallacious and medically unsupported. Merely anecdotal...a story, a tale.
The statistics don't lie but the ones who misquote 'em do. And anecdotes are
just stories. They don't have the medical double blind studies to back them
for validity and reliability. You can take 'em...but you're also allowed to
leave 'em if they don't work. Without guilt, without feeling you failed. The
advice is a failure...not you. Especially with no medical evidence to back
that advice up. That's not being closed-minded or judgemental...it's being
practical.

And if your FM symptoms don't improve at least I told ya so in
advance...and why. Same for current smokers and those that are trying to
quit. Do it or don't...FM has nothing to do with it.

Why do so many different types of MD's and health advocates not
'believe' in FM? It's not subject to an easy fix....in fact it's more
difficult to treat than HIV infection...so they don't wanna believe in
it....or us. Simple, really. FM is resistant to treatment. If diet and
exercise and supplementation ( a modified Cleveland Clinic approach) was an
effective treatment we'd be where the HIV infected are...the majority
responsive to it and the medical condition treatable. FM sufferers aren't
responsive to any particular set of treatment protocols and the medical
condition of FM is, in fact, not treatable at this time. Don't let anyone
tell you otherwise. And that's why so many medical professionals avoid FM
like the plague. It's medically untreatable right now and has been since
before HIV ever showed up.

Anecdotal evidence isn't really evidence. It's definitely not fact. And
it's not medicine that can be prescribed for the pain of the FM you have
that you did nothing to wind up causing yourself. Not only is this truth but
it's also compassion for fellow sufferers.

End of story! LOL

FM'er Hugs,
Rosie S.
Dame of Dementia


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"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat
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