Re: CNC Training - For Real! (I hope)
- From: "Richard W." <raweich@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:46:17 -0700
"Kirk Gordon" <kg1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Richard W. wrote:
I was wondering about the pay rate to. But I don't know much about the
location and what it takes to live. If you start at minimum wage then the
only people who are likely to apply are those who still live at home.
Because they won't be able to rent an apartment or buy tools and pay for
any necessary classes. Here where I live you need to make $12. an hour or
when you apply for an apartment they will turn you down. They say you
don't make enough money to live here. A lot of kids moving out on their
own have this problem. I think the monthly rent starts at about $900 a
month here. No one will stay in a poverty job for very long, before they
say it isn't worth it. Especially if they need a second job to buy gas
and food.
When I did the apprentice thing if I remember correctly starting rate
was 60% of machinist rate. Which was a lot better than minimum wage. You
have to remember that these people are starting out and most don't have
anything. So they will need safety shoes and work clothes. When I started
all I had was a car.
I guess I am saying that I don't think minimum wage is a good starting
point. Especially if a janitors wage in your shop pays more money.
Remember you're trying to attract good people who will stay and grow the
company.
As I explained in another post, top performers in this shop earn
between $80K and $100K per year. The kids starting out at the bottom of
the ladder will know that. It's part of what I'm offering.
Living expenses here in SE Pennsylvania are pretty good, and the wages
we pay would be hard to come by in other industries, given similar skills
and experience.
Janitors wages ARE the starting wages for this program. The janitors
who make more aren't janitors anymore. They've learned something and
moved up the ladder. The kids in my program will do the same.
60% of machinists wages to start? That can't work. It'd mean $18.00
or $19.00 for somebody right off the street. No way to justify that. And
no room to give raises for a long, long time, if we want kids to grow. So
we start them modest. We're LOOKING for kids living at home, who can
afford to invest some time. But when they've made some investment, we
will too, and wages will grow as skill does.
KG
Often their parents will want them to leave once they start working. That's
what my dad did.
Richard W.
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