Re: Offshoring experence in Germany

On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:09:00 -0500, "John"
<johnscheldroup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Good processes and innovation along with licensing agreements
always the big winner over labor costs, molds, things made in
China business. China is looking for new things always new stuff
sells but we make cheaper, they will pay to make your unique process
so they can export it everywhere. When the trade agreement runs
off the tracks we will have new tracks and a better process so the
train runs smoother were working on it but its not cheap...
non-problem we make cheap. Process and labor is cheap here in
China, ok wait and see everyone will pay to take ride on this mother fucka.
Meanwhile Germany have this idea for mini Volkswagen car and truck
business would like us to make here in China ? we'll give you new
processes, you will export made in China car and truck.
Meanwhile we would like to buy a third of your new computer
processor business and build plant in Germany, you keep the
US market...btw German cars we know are better processed,
we export cars to Japan better then US does we put steering wheel
on the right side... Good! we make steering wheels for you.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-05/23/content_598523.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_China

John

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It is always good to get a comprehensive view of the situation by
hearing from people in other countries.

China is making unbelievable progress, not only in basic
industrilization/modernization, but upgrading from commodity
contract production to high value added manufacturing specialties
and design.

Basically China has accomplished in 10 years without a Marshall
plan, what took Japan 20 years to accomplish with a Marshall
plan, and special trade status because of the cold/Vietnam war,
and what it took the United States 50 years [1870 -1920] and
England/UK 100 years [1810-1910] to accomplish.

To be sure this rapid industrialization/progress has been, and is
being, accompanied by severe social, ecological and cultural
problems, but this appears to be the norm for any [rapid] change
[for better or for worse] in a society.

A review of history indicates exactly the same types problems in
England [does the phrase "dark satanic mills" ring any bells?]
and the United States during their periods of rapid
industrilization/expansion, and indeed, given the speed of change
and increased public awareness [i.e. Internet], these
soci-cultural/environmental "problems" may well be *LESS* severe
in China than these were in England and the United States.

It would be interesting/informative to compare quality-of-life
statistics such as infant mortality/morbidity and average/median
adult age at death, for PRChina currently and comparable periods
for England/UK [e.g. 1860-1900], the US [e.g. 1880-1920],
Germany, etc.

Everyone tends to read in an article what they expect/want to
see, but what I understood was that with considerable managerial
effort and leadership, including sizable investment in the
manufacturing facilities, including training and education,
Germany is again able to compete in the world economy in high
tech / high-value added manufacturing and design, while paying
good wages/benefits and protecting the environment.

I contrast this with the apparent concentration of the English
speaking peoples on fancy book keeping, and the "manufacture" of
"products" consisting of "smoke and mirrors."

Although I am in the US, I have chosen articles from other
countries as there is less "emotional" baggage.

One view of this [IMNSHO misplaced] managerial emphasis can be
seen at
http://business.guardian.co.uk/economy/story/0,,2087161,00.html


also see
http://business.guardian.co.uk/economy/story/0,,2137727,00.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/07/20/do2001.xml


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.
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