Re: Seeking CNC Machinist-Poughkeepsie, NY area

On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:06:56 -0700, jon_banquer
<jon_banquer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's sad to say that,
considering the fact that this country is loosing skilled machinists
at an exponential rate, the salaries in this business haven't gone up
in the last 10 years. This doesn't attract new prospects into the
This is far more serious than just sad, and applies to many
fields other than machining.

At one level, it was a problem when I was still working in
post-secondary education, and the area employers would come in
complaining that they couldn't hire any _________ [fill in the
blank with the occupation of your choice, e.g. machinists,
nurses, teachers, etc.]

Without exception, when their starting and shop wages for the
jobs in question were examined, and adjusted for inflation, these
showed a continual and significant decline. This reduction in
wages was amplified when changes in benefits such as medical
insurance, hours/scheduling and retirement were included.

The standard employer reaction was at first denial, and then the
irrational opinion that people have an obligation to work for
lower wages so that the employer can [continue] to make money.

A major problem is that occupations requiring post-secondary
training/education also require a certain level of smarts, and
people with those smarts either don't go into low wage / dead end
jobs, or quickly leave for other opportunities.

Of even more importance is that this is yet another indication
that the "free market" is increasingly "non-operational."
Classic free market economics posits that when a shortage occurs,
the cost of those goods or services goes up. This is clearly not
the case here.Why are price caps good for the cost of labor, but
bad for the price of gasoline? If price caps cause gasoline
shortages, why would anyone expect any different outcome when the
cost of labor in various fields is capped? The question then is
what agency or circumstance is preventing the rise?

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.