Re: Is part design lagging cnc capability?

GarlicDude <pulsar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Joe, Not sure whether your an owner or not, but sometimes it's the
lack of capital that prevents the smaller shop from buying the
$600,000 piece of equipment.

When your bootstrapping your way up it's much easier to finance
something in the $100,000 range than the machine with all the bells
and whistles, even though in the long run it can be worthwhile. A $50
K loader on a $100K lathe ups the payments in a big way and the
bankers make you spreadem even more.

There's some truth to that but...

Consider Joe's scenario 5 extra operators, even at 9 bucks an hour are
going to cost you 13. 13x5x2000=$130,000.00 per year. A cost that can
only go up. That's $10,833/month which can buy a whole lot of automated
machine tool. And that's just one shift, go to three and before you know
it you're talking real money.

OTOH, I was at a place recently (a young company with some real talent)
and one of the investments they need to make is in a 5-axis mill. So do
they buy a Haas for cheap money, or do you by something better for a
whole lot more money? Given the materials being cut and the tolerances,
the expensive machine doesn't have any huge advantage. It would be a bit
faster, and probably more accurate. But they don't need the accuracy and
the speed won't pay for the price spread.

As much as it pains me to say it, the Haas is probably the right choice
for them. And I've heard all the arguments about it being a throw away
machine and all. All I know is that I'd like to be able to buy a car
that retains its value as well.

The problem is that as they grow, they will probably get busier, then
buy another. Then another, and so on. But there will be a point where it
will make more sense to get off of that train and buy some 5-axis HMC's
instead. The tough thing to figure out is when to pull the plug and go
in the other direction.

--

Dan

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