Re: OT - Global Warming: true cause found - "liberals" (Ping Dan M.)

On 13 May 2007 16:56:02 GMT, D Murphy <spamto154@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cliff <Clhuprich@xxxxxxx> wrote in news:b4kd43thpatpui6eg69o1jalnrdioqaobk@
4ax.com:

Nope. Unlike you, I tend to trust the scientsts (but not
the brain-dead wingers, propaganda & lies) <G>

Really? That's not me at all.

So far it is for all I can see.

But you keep guzzling that Kool-Aid and
parroting glurg.

Notice the ice & snow melting & the growing seasons becoming
warmer & the seas rising?

OTOH there's a (probably small) chance of nice rain in Northern Africa
....

And I know what an IR spectrum & IR absorbtion is too.

That's why you never could tell me what the saturation point is for your
magical CO2.

What are you garbling on about now ????
CO2 saturation in seawater depends on temp. As
it warms up less CO2 can be dissolved ... so it's less
of a CO2 sink ...

There have recently been some serious marine dieoffs due to CO2
saturation. Which produces more CO2 ...

http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=37774
"Southern Ocean Nears CO2 Saturation Point"
[
BROOKLIN, Canada, May 17 (IPS) - Climate change has arrested the Southern
Ocean's ability to absorb greenhouse gases from the atmosphere, researchers
announced Thursday.

That will make it more difficult to stabilise carbon dioxide (CO2) levels in the
atmosphere and to reduce the risks of extreme forms of global warming.

The Southern Ocean has been absorbing less CO2 from the atmosphere since 1981,
even though levels have increased 40 percent due to burning of fossil fuels.
Oceans absorb half of all human carbon emissions, but the Southern Ocean is
taking up less and less and is reaching its saturation point, reported an
international research team in the journal Science.

This is the first evidence of the long-feared positive feedbacks that could
rapidly accelerate the rate of climate change, pushing impacts to the extreme
end of the scale.

"This is serious. All climate models predict that this kind of feedback will
continue and intensify during this century," ....
]
--
Cliff
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