Re: Hey Babe, dats a nice pair you got there--vise jaws, that is... [Re: G-Code Libraries ?


John R. Carroll wrote:
> jon_banquer wrote:
> > BottleBob wrote:
> >> "John R. Carroll" wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>> I don't have an axe, just a sense of humor.
> >>
> >> John:
> >>
> >> I'm going to give you a sales pitch opening. <g>
> >>
> >> What products DO you currently sell.
> >>
> >> --
> >> BottleBob
> >> http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > It's hard to keep track. John Carroll use to sell Vero VisiCADCAM.
>
> Still do Jon, when appropriate.
>
> > John now sells TopSolid and refuses to discuss it in this newsgroup.
> Wrong X 2
>
> > He wanted to sell AlphaCAM but complained that Markoski nixed any
> > deal.
>
> Not quite Jon. Sandy approached me, paid to fly me out to discuss it and we
> didn't consumate an agreement.
> Markoski was the one that recomended me to Sandy but I wouldn't argue the
> small grain you wrote that might be true.
> In any event, Sandy never answered to Tim.
>
> >
> > The VX AE I worked with had good things to say about TopSolid but not
> > about Vero VisiCADCAM which apparently doesn't work as promised...
> > what else is new.
>
> I had the same experience with VX Jon. I don't think anyone has it right 100
> percent.
>
> >
> > John Carroll is very lucky that VX does not have a VAR or AE's on the
> > west coast that I'm aware of. Hopefully this will change soon.
>
> VX on the West Coast won't have the slightest meaning to me Jon. They are
> pretty well able to reach California as it is now.
>
> >
> > "I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." ... Jimmy
> > Hoffa
>
> OK Jon. You have now posted a bunch of stuff that's either misinformed or
> just plain Lies.
> Be a man and apologize either for your ignorant spouting or oughtright
> lying. It's what you encourage and/or demand of others. Let's see how that
> shoe fits you.
>
>
> --
> John R. Carroll
> Machining Solution Software, Inc.
> Los Angeles San Francisco
> www.machiningsolution.com


"but I wouldn't argue the small grain you wrote that might be true."

Yup. That's the John Carroll I know. Always engaging in behind the
scenes bull*** never being really honest... just small hints of
honesty. Last I knew you fucking hated Markoski... get over it. Grow
up. I did, maybe you can too. You directly told me that you suspected
Markoski killed your deal to sell AlphaCAM and you were sober when you
told me this.

"Still do Jon, when appropriate."

>>From what my VX AE told me it's not appropriate for die shops. I'd like
to know who it's appropriate to sell Vero VisiCADCAM to. I'd also like
to know why you don't feature Vero VisiCADCAM on your Machining
Solutions website.

"Sandy never answered to Tim."

The only thing good about Sandy in my mind was he hired DMB. I'm not
saying DMB was perfect... he was very, very opinionated but he helped
me tremendously with some of the things he said to me. One book he
recommend really opened my eyes to how stuff should be coded.

"I had the same experience with VX Jon. I don't think anyone has it
right 100 percent."

VX is very close, John. Very close. One thing that has become obvious
to me... it takes massive amounts of money and VX got it to develop
their kernel.

http://www.vx.com/background.cfm

"VX is privately held. In addition to Shin Nippon Koki (SNK, Osaka,
Japan), a privately held, major machining systems supplier affiliated
with Daiwa Can Co., Nissan Machine Co. and Nippon Steel Corp, VX's
investor partners have included Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd."

"OK Jon. You have now posted a bunch of stuff that's either misinformed
or just plain Lies. Be a man and apologize either for your ignorant
spouting or oughtright
lying. It's what you encourage and/or demand of others. Let's see how
that shoe fits you."

This is typical of you, John. First off I don't lie. Second if you
think I'm lying prove it like Cliffy and GaryR never were able to do. I
honestly have no fucking idea what your talking about. I can say that I
have never bad mouthed TopSolid and have said exactly what I have been
told... that it's very good. I would guess some of TopSolids CAM is
better then VX is right now. Besides, your beef with me did not just
start with some stuff that I just posted. It started a long, long time
ago so be honest rather then continue this facade.

As far as MetaCut View I have zero respect for it's developer who I
know is on a huge ego trip and has no idea how to work with machinists.
The developer of NC Plot has no such issues. *** MetaCut View. Check
out the E MasterCAM web forum. Many MasterCAM users who I respect and
who use to post here don't like MetaCut View. I think the only need for
MetaCut View is that CNC Software still can't get the verification
right with MachineWorks. I have no idea why this is the case. Gibbs has
it right. FeatureCAM has it right. MasterCAM X still has it wrong. To
me that's very fucked up.

Your obviously very angry with me and have been for a long, long time.
I suggest you either get over it or find away to discuss with me what
you think I lied about. If I was misinformed about something I would be
happy to admit it. That would be unlike the fucking nonsense you have
pulled for years with me cause your not happy with something I did that
you don't like. I have no idea what that might be.

The shoe fits me fine, John. Unlike most in this newsgroup I have a
proven track record of growing. You have no such track record.

jon


"I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." ... Jimmy
Hoffa

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