Re: OT Petition to Repatriate Geronimo's Skull
- From: Gunner Asch <gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:38:49 GMT
On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:35:43 -0600, "John Scheldroup"
<jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:nqouq1hjbm0v0uia9cqgt6rtvel6mfcmoa@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:46:23 -0600, "John Scheldroup"
>> <jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gunner Asch" <gunner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:l8kuq1th1fh5a3tcn7oeuleo1tceo86eib@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:19:56 +0100, J. Nielsen <morgan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:26:41 -0600, "John Scheldroup" <jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In 1918, the President's grandfather, Prescott Bush, and several accomplices
>>>>>>desecrated the grave of Apache holy man Geronimo at Ft. Sill, OK. The men
>>>>>>removed Geronimo's head and a prized silver bridle which had been buried
>>>>>>with him. Using acid and amid laughter, they stripped Geronimo's head of
>>>>>>hair and flesh. They then took their "trophies" back to Yale University and
>>>>>>put them on display in the clubhouse of the secret fraternity "Skull & Bones."
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/051111.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh oh....Ill bet John is busy phoning the Mothership for instructions
>>>> as I type this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If not..here is the number
>>>>
>>>> 202-863-8000
>>>>
>>>
>>>Two different stories and mine comes from Yale.
>>>
>>>An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb, and
>>>Pat [short for 'patriarch,' the honorific used among S&B alums]
>>>Bush entered and started to dig. . . . At the exact bottom of the small
>>>round hole, Pat James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself. . . .
>>>We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and sped home."
>>>
>>>http://www.yaleherald.com/article.php?Article=2523
>>>
>>>An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb,
>>>and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig...
>>>Pat[riarch] James dug deep and pried out the trophy itself...
>>>I showered and hit the hay...a happy man...''
>>>
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>> Bush came from Yale..and you dont believe anything he says..so why
>> would you beliieve anything else from Yale?
>>
>> Btw..Ive seen Geronimos grave..aint no tomb..no iron doors.
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> But hey..it came from Yale..right?
>>
>> "An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb"
>>
>> Chuckle.....
>>
>
>"We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and
>sped home to Pat[riarch] Mallon's room, where we
>cleaned the Bones."
>
>INTER - "To bury a dead body in the earth in a grave or tomb."
>
>http://groups.msn.com/LafayetteCemeteryNewOrleansLA/origins.msnw
>Once a coffin or casket is placed into a tomb or other interment
>vehicle, it is sealed with brick and mortar or covered with soil.
>
>State law in WI requires it.
>
>Like Ed said, I'm getting tired of doing the work research for you.
>
>http://spaces.msn.com/members/photonut/Blog/cns!1p9FvQYIkDlUL2W-ysGbe_tQ!5057.entry
>
>December 11
>
>Geronimo's Head
>
>BUSH FAMILY MEMBERS OF SKULL & BONES SOCIETY
>by: Brenda Norrell - Correspondent For Indian Country Today http://indiancountry.com/?1064420579
>
>This log book states that the attack on Geronimo's grave was in May 1918, at
>Fort Sill. One of the grave robbers advised the others to proceed with caution.
>He is quoted as saying, "Six army captains robbing a grave wouldn't look good in
>the papers." Skull and Bones members are referred to as "patriarchs" in the early
>log book. The reference to Prescott Bush is written as "Patriarch Bush."
>
>The log book states, "The ring of pick on stone and thud of earth on earth alone
>disturbs the peace of the prairie. An axe pried open the iron door of the tomb,
>and Pat[riarch] Bush entered and started to dig. We dug in turn, each on relief
>taking a turn on the road ." "We quickly closed the grave, shut the door and
>sped home to Pat[riarch] Mallon's room, where we cleaned the Bones.
>Pat[riarch] Mallon sat on the floor liberally applying carbolic acid. The Skull
>was fairly clean, having only some flesh inside and a little hair. I showered and
>hit the hay ... a happy man ..."
>
>John
>
>
John..which part of "there aint no iron doors on Geronimo's grave" are
you missing?
Gunner
"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.
Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner
.
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