Procunier vs. Tapmatic

Awl--

A survey mebbe?? :)
Proly an rcm-type topic, but I also would like to know how to use them in
CNC, and given their prices (goodgawd...) and production utility, mebbe more
people here have experience with them.

I got TWO (!!) Procuniers, a 2E (2-2.5" throat) and a 2EX (1.75" throat).
The larger was frozen goddamm solid on a 3-gang drill press I bought (the
muhfugguh who sold it, whose name I would LOVE to mention, saw fit to leave
all this sitting in the rain for months--seems he likes to *work* in the
rain);
the 2EX (+ colets!) was given to me by a Tapmatic guy, seems fine, but
unfortunately the 1.75" throat is too small for my gang DPs.

Took the larger apart, finally got it to rotate, sludge/rust is STILL
dripping out--seems functional.
Surprised, tho, at how simple it is, visavis the tapmatic, which I hear is
miserably complicated--and who, btw, seems to know they got people by the
gonads--merciless....

Where's the clutch??? Seems like the operator determines it w/ feed
pressure, unlike the tapmatic.

And does that drip/weep hole suggest that constant lubrication is req'd? Or
is it just an overflow?

I don't think you can use these types of procuniers on a fadal, cuz you
cain't mount them.
A tapmatic you could mount, because of the arm which can use any kind of
stop.
Does it make sense to use a tapmatic in a cnc? How would one do it?
I have rigid tapping, and even know how to use it (!), but the clutch on a
tapmatic always made me feel better.
Thin stuff I would rigid tap; thicker stuff/blind holes I'd punk out and
bring over to my almost-functioning 3-gang DP table.

Given the clutch and the fact you can just put a tapmatic in a drill chuck
would seem to make it the more useful of the two. Mebbe the procunier is
stronger, more reliable?

TIA.
----------------------------
Mr. P.V.'d
formerly Droll Troll


.