Re: OT - Global Warming Revisited



On 1 Oct 2005 19:54:42 GMT, D Murphy <spamto154@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Guido <reuters@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:dhmf0l$gth$1$8302bc10
>@news.demon.co.uk:
>
>> But you see in this thread arguments over sunspots, Mars, and the
>> temperature 250,000,000 years ago. For why?
>
>Because some can only see it as a black and white issue. The earth is
>warmer so it must be anthropogenic CO2 that is responsible for ALL of the
>warmth. Clearly the issue is more complex than that. Clearly there are
>other factors at work here. But for those with an agenda, it's pure black
>and white. All or none. It can't possibly be a confluence of events. Why
>bother trying to understand the confluence. We need simplistic problems
>with simple minded solutions!

And denial coupled with oil-company & winger sponsored quacks &
faith-based junk science works for you.

>The issue becomes global warming is either caused entirely by man made CO2
>or it is not.

Nope. We could paint your roof white. Would that fix the problem or
would we also have to paint you & your car?

You & yours could well end up looking like something Liberace
would love by the time we are done.
Problems solved, right?

>That is all a small mind can deal with. If you point out a
>problem with the black and white thinking you get slapped with a label and
>are stuck either in the black or the white camp. Or both, depending on
>which statement of k00k science you are taking issue with.

Which ones do you most love?

>When politics forces scientists to re-word their conclusions (the case of
>the IPCC summary reports), there is a problem. First and most obviously is
>that summary doesn't represent the true findings. Second and less obvious
>is the problem that the IPCC will not be able to attract qualified
>scientists who have no agenda. Why would a good and busy scientist dedicate
>a lot of time to the IPCC when they will just go ahead an write a summary
>based on politics rather than science?

They could be working for the shrubbie or any of your heroes ....

>Political agendas on BOTH sides have turned the issue into a cesspool of
>quackery.
>
>Here's a good article that discusses some of the issues.
>
>http://geology.about.com/library/weekly/aa061001a.htm

Other than a huge slap at the republicans, the shrubbie &
the noeocons ....?
--
Cliff
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