Re: OT - Global Warming Revisited

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:43:25 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
<jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprich@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:31hrj1p5sibjv4s8a72ifjhgs08n0bjn8b@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:58:10 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
>> <jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Cliff" <Clhuprich@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:rb7qj1hvs6qfnd8lha5q3i33542jug3juh@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:21:24 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
>>>> <jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Cliff" <Clhuprich@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:h5ioj15jpi8k54u6496jro36iujlhhmqtl@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 12:24:27 -0500, "John Scheldroup"
>>>>>> <jschel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And many may be misusing the term "conduction". It's a bit
>>>>>>>> like billet, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Conduction is kinetic, when free electrons are conducted from the
>>>>>>>stored unit of potential of "heat" in the water.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> Free electrons have little to do with the conduction of
>>>>>> heat. Don't confuse it with electricity or electrical conduction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Electromagnetic radiation is made when an atom absorbs energy.
>>>>
>>>> No, John.
>>>> In some cases that would be "absorbs electromagnetic energy"
>>>> (a photon).
>>>
>>>No, No Cliff.
>>
>> John, you said "Electromagnetic radiation" which only impacts
>> electrons and protons, usually.
>
>Actually Cliff you said lasing not me,

I said nothing at all about LASERs or lasing, John.

>(hence your "a photon")

ALL EM radiation is carried by photons, John. All, no
exceptions.

>Lasing has little to do with lattice vibrations within this "solid"

I'm wondering what's up now <G>.

>> The electron cloud about the nucleus of atoms (not to mention
>> possible nuclear forces) "shield" the protons in the nucleus
>> from EM radiation, usually.
>> That leaves only the bound electrons to be impacted.
>>
>
>Which bound electrons do you speak of, those free electrons conducting
>heat,

If they are free they are not very well bound at the time, are they?

>or those electrons bound to their atoms within a lattice? The entire
>atom shakes loose as it were electrons when they vibrate,

Not really. Were that the case metals would become better electrical
conductors when they are hot.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/restmp.html

>hence these bound
>electrons you speak of are struck free to exchange energy with higher energy
>electrons. I can expand upon that later.

??
Solid State Physics.

>A little busy now I'll try to pick up on your thoughts later.
>
>> For them to accept energy must not their Quantum State also change?
>> When you accelerate a single neutrally charged atom (thus adding
>> energy to it) by some unknown means does it radiate EM radiation?
--
Cliff
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