Re: How to boost our Linksys WRT150N's signal -- across the house?
- From: "Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:47:32 -0500
dgates wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 08:19:42 -0800, John Navas
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:00:16 -0600, dgates <dgates@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[SNIP]
I may reply in more detail later, but I wanted to reply immediately
to say thank you very much for your time and detailed answers.
We might do some sort of wireless tests first, but I think at this
point we're pretty convinced that we should run the CAT5 across the
house.
There may be some subtleties involved. For example, the living
room's router is on the opposite side of the wall as the family
room's Tivo, so if we're running the CAT5 wire already, we might
consider having it lead to jacks on each side of the wall. But
those are fairly small decisions that we can make later.
You mention having a "kid" do the wiring, but I'm pretty sure we
want to hire a professional. Any idea where we might find a guy to
come out, run the cable, install 2 or 3 wall jacks, be professional
and trustworthy? I'm guessing that since you guessed we'd pay the
"kid" $200, that you figure we'll pay the pro a fair amount more
than that...?
In any case, even if you don't type another word, thank you very
much, again, for your time and assistance.
Jeff likes CAT5, and so do I, but it's an expensive pain to pull CAT5
and wire up outlets properly.
I'm willing to bet you'll spend less money and I know you'll have a
lot less hassle with powerline networking.
Newegg will sell you two LINKSYS PLE200 (up to 200Mbps) PowerLine AV
Ethernet Adapters for $130 (much less than Jeff's $200).
How funny. Somehow, I got the idea (I guess because the two of you
were both listed at the top of the http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi
page) that you (John N) and Jeff L were on the exact same page -- that
if one of you recommended a solution, it was basically both of you
recommending it. In hindsight, it should have been obvious that this
couldn't always be the case.
I'm now leaning back toward the powerline solution, for a couple of
reasons:
1. I get the sense that a lot of Jeff's recommendation for CAT5 was
based on requirements that, on reflection, I don't actually have
(e.g., moving video files between DVR and computer, running a video
server via ethernet).
2. Now that you've given me a model number, I can see that I can buy
two PLE200's (as a PLK200 "kit") at Amazon for $125:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000LJ5B8Q
This compares to something over $400, and many hours of work and
shopping around to do the CAT5 wiring.
The cost and effort involved in "running a CAT5 line across the house"
seems to increase with each conversation, currently about $150 per
wall outlet, plus some amount of topological knowhow.
In short, buying two devices from Amazon, and seeing if they get me
what I need, seems like the much simpler plan. That 4-star rating at
Amazon is very promising, and I suspect that the actual average would
be much higher than that if happy customers were as motivated to post
as unhappy ones.
I'm now re-scanning Jeff's email, looking for possible gotchas. He
mentions:
"Since HomePlug is basically BPL (broadband power line), the noise
generated by the HomePlug hardwaretrashed one neighbors shortwave ham
and CB reception. When I tried it at my house, my OTA (over the air)
TV reception became slightly noisy on some channels."
However, these CB and OTA TV type problems don't seem like they would
apply to me.
My only (mild) concern, after reading nearly all of the 70 Amazon
reviews) is that the originating DSL signal comes from an add-on room.
I know that the circuit breaker for the add-on room is in the same box
as the circuit breakers for the rest of the house. But I wonder if
there isn't some surprise around the corner.
Still, for $125 (which I can presumably get back if I need to return
these) and very little effort, I think I have to try the Powerline
route.
I notice that there's a newer model, a PLK300, which is:
much newer (2008, rather than 2006)
twice as large (10"x9", rather than 4"x5")
a little more expensive ($149, rather than $125)
not as well reviewed at Amazon (3.5 stars from 5 customers, rather
than 4 stars by 74 customers)
presumably faster (300, rather than 200, although it's speed that I
don't think I need).
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001J2ZSL4
Any thoughts on the new model?
Again, thank you both (Jeff and John) for your time and effort. I
actually appreciate the fact that you two don't agree 100%. It's
similar to how I get more out of an Ebert & Whoever movie review when
the two critics don't completely agree, and each offer counterpoints,
rather than a simple, monolithic recommendation.
To follow the movie critic analogy, I think that good reviewers can
lay out so many facts for the viewer that he might decide that he'll
like the movie, even if the reviewers didn't. I believe it was this
way for me with Ebert's thumbs-down review of the original Die Hard.
So, thank you both.
you may want to think about a plan b... Where my hs internet comes in i have
one wrt and the router part plugged to a powerline bridge, wherever I want
either wired or wireless, i plug in the second part of the powerline bridge
and a 2nd wrt (gives me both wired and wireless wherever I plug in)
as to speed, what ya got, and what you gonna be doing? speed is limited to
the source, use internet via dsl/cable you probably max at 10-12, if however
you will be transferring big stuff from one device to another, you may want
higher speed... does your tivo use wired or wireless? (if wireless, it only
does about 54 max, wired 100), do you xfer large files often, and need high
speed all the time, or do you xfer large files infrequently, and you can
live with lower speed?... how bout the puters you will be using? (wired or
wireless, and what do they support? 10/100/1000 or B/G/N)....
maybe even a plan c... Remember, no matter where you have a plug, or a cat
5/6 connection, your SO will probably want to rearrange the furniture and
put it somewhere else!
(I cheated and in the closets in each room (of our ranch house)/from the
attic, ran power/cat5/phone/coax/etc so it's basically hardwired/easy to do
from the attic/ but out of sight)
.
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