Re: Wireless Disconnects



On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:16:39 GMT, David Fairbrother
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John Navas wrote:

You know that ... how?
USA Today?
The Wire?

As an aside, that's a good show.

Indeed -- I'd say excellent -- but still fiction. I'm reminded of how
Ronnie Reagan thought he had experience of some things from just having
acted in a movie about them. ;)

Usenet is worse -- many people claim things here just because they think
they should be true, or simply make things up. :O

What started this was the claim:

The crims don't burgle their neighbours (nothing ot nick), they come
burgle in the nice part of town.

I can't speak for the UK, but in general that's just not true here in
the USA; e.g., burglary rates for two nearby towns here in the San
Francisco Bay Area:
Palo Alto 234 (nice part of town)
East Palo Alto 339 (not nice)
[2003 FBI Report of Offenses Known to Law Enforcement]
(I know, I know, facts are off-topic here. Lost my head.)

Surely you know it's not a privacy issue.
Or do you actually believe in security through obscurity?

While I agree it's unlikely crims will go around wardriving to find
burglary targets, I still find it a little *unnecessary* to deliberately
reveal your location to all within your gear's range.

Not necessary, but it can be helpful/useful if there's something wrong
with your wireless. When setting up wireless for clients and noticing
an open network or other wireless configuration issue, if the SSID gives
some clue as to who it is, I'll often contact and alert the owner, for
which I often get effusive thanks. There have also been cases where
I've gotten neighbors together to agree on a channel allocation that
minimized mutual interference. But if there's no clue in the SSID, in
most cases I won't bother because of the time and trouble it would take
to track them down.

I could understand it if it were, say, a wireless security camera or
some such, but for routers etc. in a home installation it's purely
unnecessary. Businesses are also a different matter, and in quite a few
business cases it may be a very good thing to reveal the location.

In a home security and personal privacy sense, though, keeping a little
bit of mystery about oneself is never a bad thing :)

I respectfully disagree. Security through obscurity is of little value.
Worse, it tends to give a false sense of security. Identification in
the SSID is something with more upside than downside, little or no real
risk.
--
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