Re: 'Real' cost ?
- From: DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:16:18 +0000 (UTC)
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:iim9a4126h5461806fmv529p1h1urfu7cf@xxxxxxx:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:44:36 +0000 (UTC), DanS
<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Has anyone hear ever worked on a municipality video surveilance system
?
Knot Me.
Buffalo, NY just finished installing a 60 camera system using the 4.9
GHz Public safety band.
The link below is an article about it.
The question is the cost. According to the article, it seems like the
camera's and radio equipment needed and the city paid for, amotized
over the 60 camera's, ended up costing ~ $41,000 per camera location.
Additional costs for a monitoring room, (what I'm assuming are
site-surveys) analytics, and other additional costs.
I've seen many of them around the city, and all of the ones I've seen
appear to be mounted on existing locations (meaning none of the $41K
per site included construction/installation of special poles or
dedicated towers.)
I guess it's all in the cost of the camera's.....(which I couldn't
find online with a quick search.)
Still though, $41K per camera site sounds pretty high.
http://www.bpdny.org/Home/Press/Current/MayorBrownSurveillanceCameraUpd
ate
"The equipment includes: sixty (60) surveillance cameras and
supporting software ($2,534,895.00); analytics for sixty (60)
surveillance cameras ($180,000.00); video surveillance monitors,
furniture, workstations and software for a video surveillance room
($212,520.00); and an outdoor events video monitoring trailer
($37,500). The contract also includes a $41,300.00 Performance Bond,
bringing the total project cost to $3,006,215.00. The purchase of the
system was made possible through the use of NYS Aid Incentive to
Municipalities (Efficiency Grant) funding and, upon the Mayor's
request, was formally approved by the Buffalo Common Council."
This might be a photo of the hardware:
<http://www.avriogroup.com/docs/Public%20Safety%20Data%20Sheet.pdf>
Well, a Tropos node is about the same complexity (with a much better
package) at about $3,500 each. Top of the line Toshiba PTZ camera is
about $1,800. Packaging adds about $500. Power system (w/o solar),
about $300. No clue on the "software" but $1,000 each should be
tolerable. That makes my guess about $7,100 total.f
They paid $2,534,895 for 60 cameras = $42,248 each. 6x markup.
I should get out of engineering and go into "crime fighting".
Yes the camera 'software' is a mystery. They additionally paid for
software for the video surveillance room which I'm guessing is for
managing the views and camera's. The camera s/w I can guess would be the
comapanies s/w to administer to the device....you'd think a MIB would
suffice.
I know that the company I'm at would have been able to do the hardware
and installations for that for 1/2 that price....I'm positive most of it
was on existing hardware......lamp post's, signal arms, etc. so there
wasn't the need for high-dollar construction.
Regards,
DanS
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