Re: WiFi exploit via duplicated SSID

In article <mtabc3h1d4r1mncfquttv06ps44psh3rrr@xxxxxxx>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yep. I know how it works. The problem is that the average thrift
shop cannot afford to test and identify all the electronics that gets
donated, especially at the prices people are willing to pay for them.
There are also a limited number of people still doing repairs or are
interested in buying devices that have a high potential for being
fried. My guess is about half the electronics I buy at various thrift
shops is dead. Since these are charities (Mtn Thrift benfits the
local High Skool) I don't return anything for credit that was blown.
Most people don't do that and regularly return things.

What makes this place unique is that there are about 5 locals that
actually do purchase electronics, do repairs, and do not become a drag
on the business by returning things. They also have employees that
have finally discovered that if you price things low enough, people
will take a chance and buy them even if they might be DOA.

If you want your local thrift shops to take in electronics, you'll
need to convince them that there's a market. You'll also need to
convince the local dump or recyling center to deal with the overflow
and to allow limited scavenging:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/e-waste/index.html>
It can be done, but it wasn't easy as there are liability issues if
anyone gets hurt dragging off something big or dangerous. The biggest
help at the thrift shop was to get donors to identify in writing what
was being donated, how much it was worth, and what was wrong with it.
Also, some basic cleaning.

Some local charities have turned eWaste into a business:
<http://www.greybears.org/computer.html>
The way the money moves is rather complex, but basically the local
waste management organizations are tryin to keep re-usable items out
of the garbage dumps. I've purchased a wide array of obsolete but
useful computers and parts from their computer store. However, what
they mostly do is tear apart the computers, cell phones, and
electronics, and send the guts off to the metal recyclers. There's
gold in eWaste, literally.

I can go on and on on recycling electronics, but not here and now.

It's not as bad here as it sounds. There's a thrift shop "chain store"
about 15 miles away (Value Village) that has some neat stuff (lots of
CRT monitors these days) and profits go to charity. There's also a
recycling bbs system (I forget what it's called) where you can post
items to give away, or that you want. I can also drive to Montreal, and
pay a bit more in one of the eJunk places. Toronto would be closer but I
won't go there on a dare.
--
W. Oates
.

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