Re: Info About Unsecured Access Point

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in alt.internet.wireless:

Seni Seven <OneWhoLovesYou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hath wroth:

No, you didn't understand what is happening.

True. I did some guessing as to what was happening.

At times we are able to get access, often when first connecting to the
network, or when we make an effort disconnect and then re-connect. In
fact, this post is being made from the connection...once I juggle it
open again.

Such connect/disconnect exercises are typical of either a low signal
level, interference, or both. How's your signal level and signal
quality (SNR)? If it's a really far away connection, you'll probably
have problems staying connected.

The report is a 25-30% signal with a 75-85% link quality, with the software
used by the Airlink 101 device.


Try a simple continuous ping test to the cable router. Ideally, it
should be a fairly low latency (about 2-8 msec) depending on range and
hardware. However, it should also be exactly the same latency for
every packet. Any increases above a base value is indicative of
packet loss. In extreme cases, you'll see a "no response" message.


C:\Documents and Settings\user>ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration


Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 3:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.74
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

C:\Documents and Settings\user>ping 192.168.2.1

Pinging 192.168.2.1 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.2.1: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.2.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms


What do you think?


If the bill is not paid, then there should never be a moment when we
can gain access to the service except to that Comcast authentication
page.

I just tried the signup page and found that it had changed. It
formerly went directly to the signup page, but that now only seems to
work inside the Comcast network. From outside, it asks for a long and
password. Try:
<https://spdns.cmc.co.denver.comcast.net>
Is that the page you're seeing?

No, the URL is actually the same as we enter it. But instead of the
content of the URL, Comcast inserts a page that it describes as an
"installation process" and that new customers will download install
software and create an email address and password and activate the account,
whereas existing customers are asked to just follow instructions. Anyone
who reads the page must turn off firewalls, virus protection, and popup
blocking software and download the software. I tried downloading it---the
link is <URL:http://cdn/downloadable_install_wizard.exe> which is clearly
not valid outside this intranet---but could not get the target object---no
download. Again, you see the download-this-install-exe page, but the
string of the URL is actually the string of the page you entered into the
URL address entry box, the content you wanted.

But we do get access to the services, and then as if there is some
arbitrary timeout on the access, we start seeing all services blocked
and if we get on an http client, we see the web page.

See my previous comments on the signup page. If you're getting this
page, it's because the Comcast DNS server it redirect all your DNS
lookups to one specific IP address (68.87.66.135). That's not normal.
However, I can't deduce exactly what's happening without the
cooperation of the owner of your borrowed connection.

Without the ability to triangulate the transmission signal of the access
point, we don't even know which direction the residents of the house live
in. However we know the first names of the girls who operate the access
point: they used them to make their SSID. We only need to knock on the
doors of several dozen homes.

By the way, we are all in temporary living situations until 1
September and don't want to sign up with anyone bringing
fiber/wire/cable to the residence until we get more permanently
situated.

Bummer. Getting temporary broadband service is a problem. There are
some services that offer monthly contracts, but they want a big chunk
up front and generally charge too much.

This Instaconnect service charges as low as $28 a month for a 12-month
contract, $40 month-to-month. But as I check now the detectable networks,
it does not register as I sit on the 1st floor of the townhouse. I
probably might see it in the upstairs room, but then who will pay for an
intermittent network signal?


However, there is this
one service called "Instaconnect" and it seems they have a rather weak
signal. I might sign up at $40 a month for a month if this service is
reliable and/or has a good reputation. Any thoughts?

These people?
<http://www.instaconnect.net>
I don't know anything about them. Also, their web server seems to be
comatose. The weak signal is going to be a problem. Got a big 24dBi
dish available? Most wireless ISP operators will loan you a test
login to see if it's going to work


I see no offer of a trial here. Perhaps that in itself is a sign.
.

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