Re: Was told by DSL tech support that


Jeff Liebermann wrote:
"amanda" <amanda772010@xxxxxxxxx> hath wroth:

This morning, I did sbc yahoo DSL installation at family member's
house using a modem router combo unit from sbc. Brand is 2WIRE; model
is 1800HG Gateway.

Good unit.

Good to know.


With the old DSL service, the same unit modem+router combo unit was
used but I didn't do the setup. Current DSL was initially set up with a
"speed stream" modem unit bought from sbc DSL. (My brother just buys
things instead of hcekcign what's at home.)

If it's an Efficient 4100 or 5100b, it *MIGHT* have the PPPoE login
saved in the router.

It's 4100. It didn't save because I tried setting it up using that
speed stream unit first when I changed the desktop for my sister and
had to install DSL installer.


You'll need the full login name and password to
setup the 1800HG.

I got those from the DSL provider. I calle from the same phone line
that DSL was on. Sort of pretended that I was my bro - the account
holder - and wasn't asked any personal question. Was just asked how was
the payment usually made. My sister is the one who paid and with check
and I said, "We.....".


During set up with this 2WIRE unit, I didn't do any security thing and
I am wondering whether I should after realizing that that 2WIRE unit
was wiresless according to the tech guy. Right now, network cable is
used to connect to the only desktop.

The 2wire defaults keep changing at the request of the ISP's. In the
past, the router arrived with WEP as the default encryption. These
daze, it's set to WPA encryption.

After talking with the tech support when setting up 2WIRE, from Control
Panel, I clicked on "Wireless Network Setup Wizard", put network name
(SSID) and had a choice to let the computer creat the key (WEP/WAP) or
create manually. It didn't specificy whether it was WEP or WAP.

The encryption key is on the last
line of the serial number sticker on the bottom of the router base.

Yes, I was aware of that because the tech guy told me how tol gte
access to the network if I have a laptop with wirkless capability.

Not much to do if you're not using wireless. However, I would check
anyway. Point your web browser at the router IP address (use IPCONFIG
to find it) and dive into the web based setup on the wireless security
page. Set it to WPA and pick a reasonally secure pass phrase (over 20
characters).

So if I want to set up the wireless security, I need to go to
Configuration Set up page for the 2WIRE which btw, can be reached at
"http://home";? What's the different between setting up wireless network
via that set up page and setting it using Control Panel's "Wireless
Network Setup Wizard"?


How excatly is DSL service different from Comcast as far as others
accesing to the wireless network to use the internet.

Comcrash uses DHCP to assign the users IP addresses.
PBI/SBC/AT&T/whatever uses the evil PPPoE to do the same thing.

Yeah, I had to choose PPPoE with when setting up the 2WIRE unit.

The difference is that Comcast does NOT need a login and password, while
SBC does.

Is that difference just a part of technology applied or is that because
the ISP provider makes it that way?

To the user on the LAN side of the router, they're absolutely identical.

I see.


Would the user need the DSL installer installed inhis/her PC(laptop)?

No way.
Okay.

If you just want to try it, leave the wireless settings alone.

I don't have a wirless laptop or desktop at the moment to try.


With Windoze XP, "view available networks". Punch in the
encryption key (last line of the serial number label), and it should
work.

That's pretty much what the tech guy said. He said the wireless laptop
will try to go onto the network and I just needed to give that number
in [........] which is on the bottom of the 2WIRE unit. Since he said
"better not do any wirless security", would the network name (SSID)
appear as the name of the DSL account holder if I had not done using
Control Panel's "Wireless Network Setup Wizard"? I would have gone
back to the "http://home"; page and checked if I were nto terribly tired
at the time. Now no one is at home over that house to open the door.


If you find that it's WEP, change it later to WPA.

Okay.


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