Re: Two Netgear WGT624 models will not communicate

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:21:32 -0400 William P.N. Smith <news2006c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

| phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx wrote:
|>In my house (house one) I have a rack of computers in which it is not an
|>option to use a wireless PC card.
|
|>There will also be a DSL connection. It is not yet wired up, but it will
|>NOT go directly to the computer room. The intention is for DSL to go to
|>a wireless device such that if there is a lightning strike on the phone
|>line, only the wireless device connected to the DSL would be lost.
|
| Why not get a decent lighting arrester for the phone line? Or a short
| piece of fiber to connect your DSL to the router that feeds all your
| computers? [Make sure you have good lighting arresters on your power
| lines too, as a powerful enough strike will jump from the phone line
| to the power (thru the DSL Modem).

If you can find a lightning arrestor that gurantees protections from a
full direct stroke, for under $10,000, please let me know. What is on
the market out there would vaporize in some strokes I have seen (like
one that melted 20% of a kitchen stove).

I did, in fact, look for a way to connect fiber. I could not find a
way less than $500. I opted for the wireless because it was lower in
cost (considering I need to have much of what the wireless gives me
anyway).

My plans for lightning isolation are non-metallic network connectivity
and UPS/inverter with 8 hours battery run time that can be run while
intentionally unplugged from mains. I'm working on the networking side
of things first. The power part will come later.


|>There is also a printer, which cannot fit in or near the computer room.
|>It is a wireless printer, model HP 6980.
|
| Make it a wireless router, and your printer will be on your LAN.

What do you mean by "make it a wireless router"? The printer has the
wireless radio built in (in fact not even an antenna port). The only
option I could see for it was making it do an ad-hoc mode network.
That might well be a way to get it to talk to this cheap nameless
bridge I have that can only do 802.11b+WEP128. I doubt I need the
speed for the printer so that as a side solution is viable.


|>he needs to have some parental control
|>on the access.
|
| You sit your child down and explain "trust but verify" to them,
| disallow 'private' computer use (bedrooms, out of sight of family),
| and stop by every so often to see what they are doing.

Not my children. And all 5 of them know how to get online and find
web sites ... even the 3 year old (and that is what scares me ... she
knows more about hooking the computer up than either of her parents).
She's already learned to read being motivated to play on the computer.
These kids are going to need their own computers given the way they
fight over the one they have. The 15 y/o now has 2 computers of his
own (a hand-me-down and a built-from-spare-parts) but those are not
yet connected, but I know he's working on trying to.


| Turning it into a technological arms race isn't going to get you where
| you want to be.

If the wireless connectivity actually works between houses, what I was
going to propose to my brother is running the kids' computers through
my proxy firewall.


|>Both the Window XP machine, and his wife's laptop, need to access internet
|>(through their cable connection) and access my rack of computers.
|
|>The houses are across the street from each other, about 55 feet. I don't
|>need full capacity between the houses, but I do plan to put a backup file
|>server over in my brother's house in the future, and sync the two together
|>over the wireless (not going through DSL or cable).
|
| How about setting up a VPN across the internet between your DSL and
| his Cable modem?

The desired bandwidth would kill those accounts in a matter of days.
I'd LOVE to lay a gigabit fiber between the houses. But that would
cost a few hundred or more in time and Ditchwitch rental. Going
under the road would be the hard part. If the wireless works, it
would save a lot of hassle. What stinks is that it doesn't, NOT
because of any RF issues, but because of stupidity in the way things
are partitioned into different classes of devices that cannot talk
to other instances of themselves.

What would be nice is a genuine point to point device with a high gain
very directional antenna on 2.4 GHz, 3.7 GHz, 5.8 GHz, or 300 THz.

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