Re: WPA-PSK wierd problem

will do, may be a few days though as I working away for the rest of the week


"John Navas" <spamfilter0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:26:56 GMT, "Geoff"
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Well, I'm toally confused now !!

I went back to the house armed with a 15mtr patch lead and a spare ADSL
wireless router.

I disabled all security on the router before running the following tests.

Good.

For ease, I will refer to the "original" PC as PC1 and the one I've just
reinstalled for them as PC2

With PC1 connected to the router via the patch lead and the wireless
network
card diasbled, PC1 can connect to the internet and PC2 can make a witeless
connection to the router (but not the internet).

What do you mean by PC2 connection? What IP address is assigned?
Manual or DHCP? Can it ping the router? Can it access the router's web
interface? Can it ping the Internet? Can it lookup hostnames? I'd
like to see the exact output from IPCONFIG /ALL on PC2 in this case.
Likewise PC1.

With PC2 connected via the patch lead and its wireless network card
disabled, PC2 can connrct to the internet but PC1 cannot make a wireless
connection to the router??

What is the exact symptom? Again, I'd like to see IPCONFIG /ALL from
both PCs in this case.

I repeated these tests with the spare ADSL router and got the same
results.

Wireless Internet isn't working with either PC on either router?

I cannot get PC2 (in the Son's bedroom) onto the internet at all with the
main PC connected.

What happens if PC1 is disconnected?

Their ISP is Tiscali and they're on the basic 2meg package - could it be
that the ISP doesn't support ICN or something like that?? When I ran the
diagnostic tests from the spare router that I took, it came back saying
that
a "ping" test had failed??

The router must be able to access the WAN if any computer, wired or
wireless, can access the Internet. That suggests a router configuration
problem. Try resetting the ADSL router to factory defaults, and
configuring from scratch. Use DHCP (not manual configuration) for both
wired and wireless clients. Get and post the output from IPCONFIG /ALL.

"Geoff" <geoff.bell.1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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I will disable all security to get try and get the thing connected first.

I will check the MAC filtering option. I don't "think" I've touched it,
but you never know - is set as "on" by default??.

A mate of mine is bringing me his spare ADSL Router on Tuesday and I
will
try that in their system if I cant't get things working with their
existing setup.

I suspect that as I'm not familiar with the BT Voyager router, I may not
have it configured properly and if the MAC filtering is "on", I'm
guessing
it will refuse connections from any other PC's??

Many thanks for all your help, I will report back on Tusday after I've
been to their house.

Geoff
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:55:15 GMT, "Geoff"
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Thanks for the suggestions:

His PC was in a dreadful mess, so I reinstalled it from scratch using
his
XP
Home SP2 disk. All updates etc from Windows Update were applied and
checked
until there were no more updates available for it. He's only just got
the
router and this particular PC has never been used wirelessly with it.

My network does not have the same name as his - I changed mine for
security
purposes and left his as the default "BTVOYAGER2110AB" until we got it
up
and running.

I removed the network adapter from device manager and let it rediscover
it
and the same thing happened.

I will try backing off to WEP and see if I can get a connection.

Good idea. I'd personally disable all security temporarily while
troubleshooting the problem. WEP can be a problem because different
products interpret keys differently.

Maybe it would be better to use the configuration software that came
with
the card rather than letting Windows configure it?? It's a Sweex
Ralink
54meg pci card. I've never used them before so I don't know what their
config software is like??

I haven't either. It may be worth giving the vendor software a try.
I normally prefer to use Windows for Wi-Fi configuration because most
vendor software isn't as good. One exception is Intel, which has very
good (other than being horribly bloated) connection software.

Are there any know issues with either the card or the BT router??

I'm not familiar with either -- sorry.

That it works at your house but not at his house suggests the problem
is
related to the configuration of his wireless router/access point.
Might
you possibly have enabled *> MAC filtering <* for just the one original
computer? This is why I recommend removing *all* security for
troubleshooting.

Thanks for your help

Geoff

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On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:12:24 GMT, "GB" <someone@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Hoping for some help here as I'm at a dead end.

Installed XP Home for a friend of mine. IU set it up at my house
connected
to my wireless network - worked great - good signal strength and no
problems.

Took it back to them and although I can see their wireless network, I
can't
get the PC to connect to it. I set their router up for use with
another
PC
in their house which works fine, but the "new" PC can't connect.

When it asks for the WPA network key and I input their key, it hangs
at
the
"connecting" dialogue box for ages and eventually says that it can't
connect. Now the wierd bit is that there is already a network key in
the
dialogue box when I try and connect. Judging by the number of
characters
in
the key, it's mine from my wireless network??

Sounds like you both have the same SSID, which is a Really Bad
Idea(c).
Set *unique* SSIDs on both WLANs; e.g.,
* "GB's wonderous wireless"
* "Friend's so-so-wireless"

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