Re: Security for my notebook on public wireless
- From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:53:52 -0800
"shepard" <shepard97504@xxxxxxxxx> hath wroth:
I have also read that Zone Alarm has
become as impossible to uninstall as Norton AntiVirus. It digs it's
tentacles so deep that uninstalling it is almost impossible. I don't
know if this is correct information, but I have had so much trouble
with NAV, I would not want to install another product with similar
Norton Internet Security and Norton Anti-Virus 2004-2006 were a
serious problem with uninstallation. In the past, I've had to
manually hack my may through the registry, removing all traces of NIS
and NAV. I think there were something like 3000 entries. Symantec
finally got the clue and has supplied uninstall tools for the past
year or so.
It's not exactly trivial to uninstall properly, but the proceedure
does work if followed exactly. There are also other uninstallers for
other similar products.
McAfee Anti-Virus products have similar problems. I don't recall the
exact version numbers, but I recently did battle with one OEM
pre-installed version on a Dell something, that had 4 different
modules, that had to be uninstalled in exactly the right (unspecified)
order, or it would leave a mess. I eventually had to reinstall from
cdrom, and try the uninstall in a different order, before I found the
When I finally got it uninstalled, I found that it still had some junk
running on startup. I had to use Startup Inspector for Windoze:
to disable and remove those. Yech.
Recently, I noticed that McAfee Anti-Virus now has a single entry
under add-remove software on a new Dell something. It uninstalled
quite easily. Progress methinks.
The free version of ZoneAlarm was a problem with uninstallation as it
would also leave some programs in startup. I again had to use Startup
Inspector for Windoze to remove those. After that, no problems with
With the full collection of add-ons and plug-ins, ZoneAlarm begins to
resemble NIS, System Works, and McAfee Internet Suite. Same with
Trend Micro's PC-cillin Internet Security. Plenty of things to go
wrong. I don't have much experience with these, but they don't seem
any worse than the others.
My biggest current headaches with various anti-virus and firewall
products are the corporate editions. They usually require a password
to remove them, which is all to often lost. Removing the product
without the password invariably involves registry hacking which is no
My main concern is that while on a public wireless network, I don't
have the incoming protection I have at home with my router. I suppose
I could just turn on Windows firewall whenever I use the notebook away
from home and turn it off when connecting through my router.
Most of my customers have the Windoze firewall turned on all the time.
It's fairly smart about dealing with incoming junk. All you have to
do is turn on or off the File and Print Sharing exception.
I do have file sharing turned off.
Leave it off along with everything else that's not needed.
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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