Re: Google has removed my site from their index - why and what do I do?


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In article <optki.7508$qu4.7246@trndny06>, Denise <dionyza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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In article <yfrki.3367$lY4.2708@trndny07>, Denise <dionyza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Please tell me why frames are unfriendly. What inconvenience do they
cause
to visitors?

Framed sites are built so all pages correspond only to one web address -
your domain name. (On non-framed sites each page has its own address.)
Individiual pages do not have their own addresses.

They do. The page addresses are also visible, and Google knows a few of
them.

With regards to the SEs, one of two things happens: only your homepage
shows
up in a Google search, or individual pages show up orphaned, stripped of
the
navigation menu & their greater context (maybe even the name of your
site).
In your case, the latter applies.

Yes. The top frame contains only the logo of the company, so it is not
that
terribly important. The left frame has a menu, which won't be seen if one
goes to Introduction.html. Perhaps you mean that the menu should be
visible
anyway without using frames.

Of course it should. Why should people need to figure out how to reassemble
your page when they click on a search result that shows them the page's
content orphaned from your site's name & the navigation?


(If, as you say, the SEs are being shown a frameless site, whatever method
you're using is not working, because Google is indeed accessing the framed
version.

No, it is not. In the frame-free version, it has been told of several
pages
which exist, and of the existence of the left frame's left.php. This has
been done so that if someone is only interested in knowing the basics of
nonlinear modelling in three or four lines, he can go to what_is_NM.html.

Mr. Bulsari, if Google is indexing the individual content pages without
their accompanying navigation & the other pieces of the page, they are
indeed accessing the framed version - in which the page is cobbled together
together from several pages.

They are indexing all the little pieces (your navigation "page," your logo
"page," and your content.), not whole pages.

In a non-framed version, they would be getting the whole page together with
all its component parts.


Is there an example I can emulate (copy the idea from)?

- using SSI (server side
includes) is a better, simpler, way. It's not difficult to convert a
framed
site to use SSI instead, and the site will be much more user friendly.

This SSI thing is new to me. I would be glad to learn about it if you
point me to some document I can read up.

All you have to do is Google "Server Side Includes" or "Server Side Includes
tutorial."

Anyway, here's a good link with a lot of resources.
http://www.wdvl.com/Authoring/SSI/
And this explains it well, too.
http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol2/server_no8.htm

In a nutshell, you put the elements that are common to each page into a file
(perhaps navigation.txt) which you would then call like this:
<!--#include file="navigation.txt" -->
or
<!--#include virtual="/somedirectory/navigation.txt">

You must also put the following in your .htaccess file:
AddHandler server-parsed .html
(or .htm or .shtml, depending upon the extension you wish to use).

SSI also makes it very easy to update the site. If, for example, you add a
page, you can just add the navigation link to navigation.txt and the change
will appear on every page on the site.


For a small site like this one, the change could be made very quickly! Why
not do it?


If it does not take much time, I will most likely do it.

It is simple to figure out how to do and only involves a few steps.


Yeah, my mistake. When I go to www.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com and
right-click on the right frame (the one that contains the content) the
address is shown as www.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com/first.html which is
cached / indexed by Google.

I cannot find this site even if I search for "Nonlinear Solutions Oy"
which is the title of the page and matches the domain name with
hyphens. Perhaps you don't have this trouble. But I can see it in the
number and kind of visitors to the site. Earlier I could see a lot of
people searching for something on Google and finding this site. These
days, I see mostly search engines, and the over-eager live.com.

Your contact & links come up in a search for that phrase, rather than the
first.html page.

If you had "nonlinear solutions oy" in the title tag of your homepage, that
would help a lot.
Your current title tag (the same on every page!) is "nonlinear solutions for
process industries;" oy isn't in it at all.


There are indications that there are more than one indexes Google
keeps. You get the search results from one; we get from another one.
They might have separate googlebots or perhaps the same one(s).

Well, yes, there are hundreds of datacenters. Even the same computer doesn't
access the same one all the time. Differing datacenters do return differing
information.


Just to be on the safe side - even though you have good protection
already -
as others have suggested, you might check for spyware. Try AdAware
(free),
perhaps? That's all I can think of.

This is unlikely because other computers here are also showing the same
problem.
In any case, I doubt that spyware can tell Google to search for the
right
words
but not show my site.

OK. But if it were me I would rule out "unlikely."

And yes, there are spywares out there which can indeed monkey with Google
results.

That type of spyware has been around for years. (Do a Google search on
"spyware Google results" - without the quotes - and you will see over 2
million pages listed!)

On four computers the results are the same. One of them runs Unix. One
of them is 150 km away. So I believe it is unlikely that there is
spyware sitting on my machine causing this problem. I have very high
security settings on this PC, which does not allow even Flash and most
kinds of scripts to run from IE.

OK, of course it is your call. If it were me, I would just rule out as much
as I could.

best,
Denise


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