Re: Google has removed my site from their index - why and what do I do?

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In article <yfrki.3367$lY4.2708@trndny07>, Denise <dionyza@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Thanks for all your efforts. I appreciate it. Some questions remain.

I could notice the problem only when I found that there was a sharp
drop in the number of visitors to the site (then I saw that people
searching from Google were not coming to the site). I have today tried
to search with www.google.co.uk, www.google.se/no/dk/fi,
www.google.com, www.google.co.in and they all give me similar (not
exactly the same) results - my site is nowhere to be seen, and on top
are poorly related sites. This probably also indicates that Google has
more than one indexes (indices?) and people in the US search through
one of them.


I ran the search "A. Bulsari" just now on the Google sites you mentioned
above and your site's at the top of the list. So, there indeed appears to be
a difference in from where the search is performed.

As for www.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com, it's constructed with frames, a
method very unfriendly to search engines (and visitors).

I believe that frames are worthwhile. I may be wrong, but practically all
sites I happen to see have frames. Having said that, I can add that (1)
the
search engines are shown a frameless site, and close to the top, it says
that if someone (looking from cache) wants to read properly, there is also
a site with frames, which they can click on.

Please tell me why frames are unfriendly. What inconvenience do they cause
to visitors?

Framed sites are built so all pages correspond only to one web address -
your domain name. (On non-framed sites each page has its own address.)
Individiual pages do not have their own addresses.
With regards to the SEs, one of two things happens: only your homepage shows
up in a Google search, or individual pages show up orphaned, stripped of the
navigation menu & their greater context (maybe even the name of your site).
In your case, the latter applies.

(If, as you say, the SEs are being shown a frameless site, whatever method
you're using is not working, because Google is indeed accessing the framed
version. Additionally, when viewing the cache for your pages, I do not see
any "view framed site" link there.)

The frames cause difficulty for your visitors in several ways:

1. Individual pages cannot be bookmarked without losing the navigation, as
the navigation is actually a separate page. This is inconvenient for
visitors, causing them to have to hunt through the site for the information
they want to find again.

2. When visitors click on a search result for a framed site, they are likely
to be shown the page stripped of its navigation, causing them to be unable
to find links to the rest of your site.

To see how this happens, see the list of indexed for your site (the link is
below).
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLJ%2CGGLJ%3A2006-49%2CGGLJ%3Aen&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com%2F
Click on any of them. You will see the page without the navigation. That is
a terrible problem for your visitors.

I'm surprised that most of the sites you visit use frames. Here in the US
they are very seldom used anymore. But, perhaps practices are different in
other parts of the world.

Anyway, if you're using frames to easily include a navigation menu on every
page - and that is usually why frames are used - using SSI (server side
includes) is a better, simpler, way. It's not difficult to convert a framed
site to use SSI instead, and the site will be much more user friendly.

For a small site like this one, the change could be made very quickly! Why
not do it?

The real home page is index.php. If someone goes there from my site,
it is sent to first_page.php, which is a copy of index.php. This first
page also has a <NOFRAMES> alternative. Introduction is shown only
when the user clicks on that word in the left side frame. Otherwise
the main frame contains start.html.

Yeah, my mistake. When I go to www.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com and
right-click on the right frame (the one that contains the content) the
address is shown as www.nonlinear-solutions-oy.com/first.html which is
cached / indexed by Google.

Just to be on the safe side - even though you have good protection
already -
as others have suggested, you might check for spyware. Try AdAware (free),
perhaps? That's all I can think of.

This is unlikely because other computers here are also showing the same
problem.
In any case, I doubt that spyware can tell Google to search for the right
words
but not show my site.

OK. But if it were me I would rule out "unlikely."

And yes, there are spywares out there which can indeed monkey with Google
results.

That type of spyware has been around for years. (Do a Google search on
"spyware Google results" - without the quotes - and you will see over 2
million pages listed!)

Good luck.
all best,
Denise

Thanks again,

A. Bulsari



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