Re: DMOZ and Google

Hi,

darthtoaster@xxxxxxxxxxxx napisał(a):
True but Google has to answer to shareholders and has proven to be
pretty impartial. When people get paid to do a job and they do it. DMOZ
ODP is mostly run by emotions...

You said "when people get paid".
Would YOU pay for editors job without complains about YOUR sites? Dont't think so. You and many people (including me as well of course) have the same point of view. "I do pay I do expect"
Could you trust results from a directory where site existence is not connected with human quality check but amount of $ paid?

I do agree editors are not perfect judges. But believe me "humans do it better". You could play trick on googlebot. Websites are for humans so only human could judge a site content quality. Especially if he is common with site topic (you choose a category of your interests when applying to DMOZ)

I was angry many times when I did suggest website to DMOZ and there were no result. When I did become an editor it works better.
It is not a conspiracy. I did realized how DMOZ works and I do spend a little more time to find a best category, wrote more successful title and description. Before I was writting what I did want to wrote (including lot of keywords) and suggest a site to the first related category I found. Now I do understand that I should write about "my coolest and the most amazing site in the web" as it would do a person not related in any way, when reporting. It is hard but practice is a path to mastership.

and only when they feel like it.
Almost 75000 editors and it takes 2 years to get a change done. I would
love to see some stats on how much work they actually do.

Rather: "when they have time to edit". We all are volunteers and we usually do have our jobs/studies which has higher priority.

You must remember that lot of categories do not have its editor. They are edited by editor(s) from above category(ies). But believe me it is sometimes hard enough to keep one popular category in good condition.

There are
some good editors but most of them spend more time on the resource-zone
message board putting people down and getting their egos inflated, than
actually running DMOZ.

You say "most". How many good editors are? How many bad ones? What are the criteria to put a label "BAD EDITOR" on someones back?

They are volunteers. They could do as many edits as they want to. Do you expect that editors would spend any free minute to do edits?

Just choose a category of your interest, apply, run it for few months trying to keep your studies/job at the same quality level as you do have now. Then you would say something about.

I'm not saying that editing is extreme hard work for superguys. I just try to show you how much time you would need for one new entry. Especially suggested to the wrong category and/or with stupid/tricky title and/or description.

With the best wishes of only accepted suggestions.
Tomek Kepski (tkepski)


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