Re: Lost my newsgroups

Roy Schestowitz <newsgroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

__/ [ pecan ] on Thursday 18 May 2006 20:36 \__

Hi,

"John Bokma" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"pecan" <pecan.NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I went away, and when I got back I found I'd lost my newsgroups.
This means that I haven't received any of the responses I was
waiting for and I'm peed off. Can someone tell me how to find
them please? Or how to get them back into my OE. The file is
there, but OE isn't reading it - somehow my settings seem to have
been corrupted.


I suggest you see a thread subject-lined "Outlook Express..." in
alt.os.windows.xp. It was posted a few days ago and there are
commonalities perhaps. OE, in general, is not most reliable for
information storage, portability and settings generalisation, which
are stored in proprietary form rather than something generic or
standard like a directory structure or XML.

Uhm, quite a lot programs, when they crash in the middle of the data
writing process leave you with corrupted data. This the more for XML,
since your document is no longer well-formed, so if the last line is
missing, nothing. A normal binary format might be readed back until the
corrupted record is found.

Moreover, have you ever studied the history format of Firefox, to name
one Open Source application? If you understand it, you are invited by
many people to document it.

While you're looking at it, check the other files as well. Clear?
Document it :-)

Finally, Thunderbird had recently a bug that lost a bit too much data
when compacting folders. You might say: ah, well, the mail box is just a
text file. But can my mom fix it?

In short, for most users it doesn't matter if it's a text file, or a
binary file that they can decode by reading the source (Mork).

You might want to switch to Xnews or another news reader anyway.
Here, Xnews is able to load old headers and articles. You can always
use Google Groups to look back in time.

I hear splendid things about XNews, but John once said that he wanted
to 'relocate'. Consider posting a question in news.software.readers.
The folks there would be helpful.

Yes, Xnews is a bit weird :-) But I am too little on Usenet to change
now. I have heard good things about Dialog and XanaNews (
http://www.wilsonc.demon.co.uk/xananews.htm )

For OE, unsubscribing and then subscribing might fix the issue. In
the past I used to delete some files (mbx, idx), but I haven't been
using OE for ages, so I can't advice on that point. I know that OE
has that problem when it crashes, or your computer suddenly turns
off.

Inconsistencies or management in RAM rather than disk, I guess. Never
happens with KNode, which you know I always advocate. *wink* In KDE,
as in GNU, everything is a file^tm.

Doesn't matter. If you application crashes (or power outage) while
writing to disk, the file will be corrupt. And don't say that this is
not happening under Linux, because I have seen it there too.

Moreover:

probably my fault I lost it... was copying only certain files to the
laptop for going away, and must have left off something vital.
Sigh.

Linux can't magically create a file that hasn't been copied.

Just a request: next time you post a "GNU/Linux is better then Windows
XP" post, reread it carefully. Especially the parts you're unsure about
regarding to Windows, since most of the times your post seem to be based
on lack of knowledge of Windows XP and too much trust in GNU/Linux.

I have been using several operating systems in 20+ years, and all have
issues, and many of those issues are shared. The thing is, an expert
user rarely has any issues on any of those operating systems. It's often
the very inexperienced user that messes things up time after time. Just
read help post by inexeperienced GNU/Linux users, and it doesn't sound
that different from users at the same level with any other OS.

The thing with Windows is that the user base that is at that level makes
all other OSes insignificant. But don't let that fool you again.


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