Re: Title attribute in link

"Paul B" <lamewolf2004@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:81a702dmtssk07303cq6vlmha3qdtnlfqa@xxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:23:08 -0500, "John" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"canadafred" <canadian_web@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:gOMMf.2928$972.85880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Greg N." <yodel_dodel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:du00uc$eu$1@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Big Bill wrote:

In a volatile environment, one would be foolish to trust any source
absolutely. As I write an engine may be programming to take note of
the attributes under discussion. For now, though, personally, I won't
be using the technique you describe.

Well, if you're concerned a title attribute may be considered spam...,
I
think you can't be serious.

Are we all now starting to suffer SE spam paranoia? Are the W3C HTML
specs now being rewritten by Google?

A tiny bit of text written in background color - deadly! CSS attributes
"overflow:hidden; display:none; text-size:1px; " - outlawed! TITLE or
ALT
attributes of more than three words - evil!

As I said, you can't be serious. As long there is no obvious, blatant
spam attempt (like the 1200 hidden spam words on www_rob-james_com),
valid HTML should is just that: valid.

--
Gregor mit dem Motorrad auf Reisen:
http://hothaus.de/greg-tour/

It's all about appearing natural. I use a little bit title attributes
sometimes but I restrain it to be exactly the short keyphrase used in
it's
anchor text.

The point that Bill raised earlier "I don't believe that any of the
major
engines evaluate those
attributes." is, I think, accurate but I would add that the major search
engines certainly are aware of the content within the attribute. So if
you
are going to use this attribute, use it lightly and in a fashion that
appears natural; not as an attempt to get some keyphrases stuffed in
there.


Hi Fred
I'm assuming people think I'm using this opportunity to keyword stuff my
pages or links without going to the website to see how it is being used.
I
believe even people with an SEO background would see the value to the user
if they would visit the website and "see" how it is being used. If you
have
a minute, would you check it out on the website and let me know if you
think
it's keyword stuffing or if you can see how it can help a user visiting my
website.


http://www.your-new-jersey-wedding.com/index.htm
(top left navbar, just hover on a link)

Thanks,
John


Hi John
I am on the fence with this one. I can see why people may think that
it is keyword stuffing. And I disagree with what is said.

But, on the other hand, why have you not done the same for the rest of
the menu ? Contents / privacy policy etc.

AFAICR title tags have no use for SERPS but do help in other ways, but
you must be consistant. ie, do the same for the rest of the menu.

plh
Paul

I don't know what to say John. Try it, if it works for you to provide your
visitor with additional information regarding the link, that's good. It
doesn't look bad to me. It certainly doesn't appear to be an attempt at
keyphrase stuffing. It appears to be intended for the visitor. Go with that.
That's your design, that's your design.

I agree with Paul about finishing that column consistently. A SE may see
this as an effort to emphasize some links with title attributes and not
these others. What's wrong with these others? Are they less important for
you therefore not worthy of title attributes too? Stay consistent and let
the SE work out what is important.

A side note : instead of <a title"..." href="..."> make it <a href"..."
title="...">. This is in fact an anchor tag <a>. It's an etiquette thing,
the tag value is supposed to be more significant than an attribute of it
therefore is positioned first in the tag. Man, when I see stuff like <meta
content="..." description="..."> I just about jump out of my skin and I hope
the SEs do too!

--

Fred canadian_web@xxxxxxxxxxx
Ethical SEO Tips, Tools and Resources
www.rezultz-web-site-promotion.com


.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Title attribute in link
    ... engines certainly are aware of the content within the attribute. ... pages or links without going to the website to see how it is being used. ... you must be consistant. ... therefore is positioned first in the tag. ...
    (alt.internet.search-engines)
  • Curious
    ... assembled a fairly large collection of HO scale cars and engines. ... Kato use to have a number of diesels to choose from on their website. ... they look very thin on offerings. ...
    (rec.models.railroad)
  • Re: Title attribute in link
    ... Are we all now starting to suffer SE spam paranoia? ... engines certainly are aware of the content within the attribute. ... pages or links without going to the website to see how it is being used. ... it's keyword stuffing or if you can see how it can help a user visiting my ...
    (alt.internet.search-engines)
  • Re: Title attribute in link
    ... Are we all now starting to suffer SE spam paranoia? ... engines certainly are aware of the content within the attribute. ... pages or links without going to the website to see how it is being used. ... it's keyword stuffing or if you can see how it can help a user visiting my ...
    (alt.internet.search-engines)
  • Re: search results question..
    ... however, sometimes in results for a page on my site instead of content in tag it show shows content of the page, from inside tag.. ... Search engines are free to show you what they want. ... In the early days it would have been the url, page title and meta-description and I'm sure many search engines still use this combination. ... I believe that Google will often use text from the page, either when it thinks that the page from the text is more relevant or when the description is missing or does not appear relevant to the page. ...
    (alt.internet.search-engines)