Re: Semantic Searches - Knowledge Engines

Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Given all the data which is contained in our E-mail box(es), our files
> (photos, documents and sounds to name a few), wouldn't inference be the
> natural direction to follow? Extracting the semantics from our data and
> forming a network of knowledge will enable us to search for answers
> rather than text that resembles our query. As for personal search (limited
> scope due to privacy), the implications can be particularly revolutionary.

So, you think an ?intellectual thumbprint? of a person can be useful? To
whom, if I may ask? If you *are* the person your system is profiling, you
already have pretty good knowledge of who/what you are (leave pathology
aside for the sake of the argument). Privacy implications are immediate
and obvious, even the actual ?limit? that you are referring to, is
debatable. There may be VERY good reasons to leave some (most?) parts of
your life outside of public domain of knowledge. Who gets to decide what?s
indexed and what?s not? What about people not familiar with the system
that accidentally let it index things not intended to be indexed?


> Rather than "search engines" we will be talking about
> "knowledge engines"
> (Googlism is maybe worth citing). There is currently no barrier that
> stands
> in the face of implementation apart from computer power and code. With
> Open
> Source software, I think it will soon be achieved.


Well, on the other hand, you make it sound like it?s a mega-reminder
system you?ve conceived. Like, you?ve already had that piece of
information, but it eludes you, so you need an aid to find it. Well, in
this case it could be useful.


>Just imagine a neural network out there which rather than contain text with
your name >as got complex knowledge about who you are.

Umm? once again, myself and the closest family pretty much make up the
complete list of parties I would ever want to have knowledge of who I am.
I don?t need no stinking network having my ?intellectual thumbprint?
available to advertising agencies, political parties, law enforcement,
IRS, Greenpeace, well, you go ahead and complete the list of who?d want to
know not only my name but my way of life, too. I have enough trouble with
too many people knowing my social security number and my home phone number
as it is.

>Moreover, it can answer questions
> that involve you and is too complex to be explored by a human.
If it?s too complex to be explored by a human(?), I do not want to be
involved because I would not be able to understand what it means to me.
Therefore I would not want to donate any personal data into this project.

>To many
> bodies including governments this would be invaluable, so be sure it's headed
> that way.

Yeah, way to go, Roy! Things are already headed that way, anyways, so bend
over before it?s too late!

You are conceiving a system that may, eventually, become more dangerous
than Google. How?s that for a statement? Google is already indexing much
more data than is required to provide ?knowledge? in its academic sense.
It can already be used for any kind of site penetration or at least doing
an extensive research plotting a penetration attack. Credit card numbers
accidentally indexed, social security numbers, account numbers ? you name
it, Google has it. Personally I don?t think Google has developed a set of
morals yet that would lead them through managing these problems. They are
pretty much letting it be this way: you left it visible to our bot ? you
are responsible. This leaves out a basic argument: if there were no bot,
the data won?t be compromised.

So, if you did not think hard about implications, think again. You still
have time to do it right (if of course there is such possibility).

Good luck!

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