Re: The "new age" of html?

On Jan 3, 11:17 pm, richard <mem...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 16:07:10 -0800 (PST), libbasic





<ca...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 1, 9:19 pm, inva...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Jani wrote:

richard wrote:

As you may know, I am a big big fan of Basic. Even more so now with
the advent of "liberty basic".www.libertybasic.com

Carl Gundel, the author has taken his version of basic into the next
level and is now competing with php, javascript, python and asp.

With minimal knowledge of html and basic, you can create your own
website using basic right on your PC. I plan on converting my oldies
site using this method. As it has the capability of utilizing a simple
database I can create tables of information on the page without the
need of reloading the page, iframes or division swapping.

Anyone use it now or interested?

www.runbasic.com

Most people don't need any sort of programming language for the web.
plain old HTML webpages work fine for most people.

That's fair, and perhaps Run BASIC isn't really on topic for this
group except that HTML can be a gateway to real programming, and Run
BASIC is a perfectly good next step.

If you want something to run on a standard Apache or IIS server
of the type you get when you buy hosting, it won't have Runbasic
available. My hosting provider gives me PHP, Perl, Python, C,
C++, Tcl, CGI and all the standard Apahce features.  No Runbasic.

Well, not yet anyways.  ;-)  However you can download Run BASIC for
free and try it out on your own computer.  Some of our users like the
free version.  Some actually host their own server from home, and some
use the runbasicnet.com hosting service.

If you are willing to buy a dedicated server or virtual server,
you can run what you like, but PoweBASIC is only slightly more
expensive that Runbasic, and is far more powerful and efficient.

PowerBASIC is a very nice product, and I have used it for some of my
own projects.  It isn't a web development system so it may be more
efficient at something, but Run BASIC is more efficient for web
development.

Even so, Python is usually a better choice thatn either Runbasic
or PowerBASIC for web applications.  

What is your justification for saying this?  If someone asks which
tool is better for a given job the answer is almost always "It
depends."  Run BASIC is specifically designed for building and hosting
web apps, and it is designed to be very easy for the beginner.
Several of our customers are very enthusiastically embracing Run BASIC
after coming from more popular options like PHP.

None of these are competitors for javascript or Java, which run
on the client, not the server.  

I do not believe your claim that Runbasic has "the capability of
utilizing a simple [which] can create tables of information on
the page without the need of reloading the page, iframes or division
swapping."  - Hide quoted text -

I'm not quite sure what Richard meant by this.  What Run BASIC does
well is simplify web development.  It includes a lot of useful
capabilities in a single install, and it hides complexity behind a
simple interface.

-Carl Gundel
http://www.runbasic.com

Allow me to introduce y'all to the author of "run basic".
As well as "Liberty Basic".
If I am wrong about how runbasic will implement my ideas, feel free to
correct me carl.

I had made a comment on the LB board about being able to create tables
that would magically be recreated "on the fly" rather than with the
standard need for html to swap divisions or use iframes. Alyce
responded graphically that it could.

Take for example, your "firstTable" project in the free edition and
add that to the "button" command example. Click button one shows table
one, clicking button two shows table two. Without leaving the page.
Right?- Hide quoted text -

Probably the best way to explain this is that Run BASIC manages the
web page for you. You don't need to regenerate the page from scratch
each time. The HTML is generated for you, but you can inject any
additional markup you might want. It's hard to explain, so I'd
recommend that interested readers just go and watch the videos of Run
BASIC in use.

-Carl Gundel
http://www.runbasic.com
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