Re: Is the end of HTML as we know it?

Ed Jensen wrote:

I call this the "Bjarne Stroustrup Excuse". He always argued that
it's not C++ that's too complex, but instead, developers not being
properly educated.

We all know how that turned out: C++ has little going for it these
days, except simple inertia (i.e., it's not worth rewriting large
bases of code in less complex/better languages). Developers continue
to increasingly choose simpler/better languages these days, such as
Java and C#.

I've programmed many tools, for personal use, with C++, and it works very well. I wouldn't use Java (too heavy runtime inertia), C# or C. I find that C++ fits my needs.
C++ isn't the "ultimate universal tool", but it's perfectly fine for many application fields for people who master the language.

There's a difference between C++ and CSS.
Most C++ developers are somehow trained and produce quite correct applications.
But, most CSS developers are highly ignorant, and have fundamentally wrong design principles, such as "it should render identically eveywhere".

Bad news: I've to use many web sites that've been designed by ignorant web designers.
If CSS didn't exist or was harder to use by bad web designers, I wouldn't get all that bad stuff. That's true to a much larger extent for JavaScript. 99% of the JavaScript of the web is harmful or at best useless.
I often disable author's CSS, but, unfortunately, there're more and more pages that become hard to read without author's CSS.

While there's some truth to that argument, at some point you need to
be pragmatic. If 99% of the web developers out there are getting it
wrong, maybe the tool needs to be more user friendly.


No, it's misused BECAUSE it's too friendly. You don't need to read any spec to use it!
e.g. WISYWIG editors worsen the thing.

In the "CSS is a car" analogy, I would say that, you need a driver license to drive a car (because it's powerful and dangerous) but you don't need a license to use the powerful and dangerous CSS. Imagine if 3 years old children were allowed to drive a car without license?

It's my opinion that the underlying problem is somewhere closer to the
tool being too complex. You may have a different opinion, and that's
fine.

The tool is being too complex (because it's powerful), which implies:
1) That IE don't support it.
2) That most web developers don't use it correctly.

Note: Purely from a user point-of-view, user CSS (without author CSS) is great. If CSS had to be removed from the web then, user CSS should have to be kept.

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