Re: Ronda Harley 375 date


"Marrick" <anonewsgroup.12.marrick52@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On 7 Jan, 16:29, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
BTW, a HQ373 (which exchanges with the 375) sells for $12 retail. I
wonder
how much the Fortis watch retailed for? The other lesson is not to spend
any money "fixing" most quartz watches - in most cases you are better
off
just discarding the movement and replacing w/ a new movement if an
interchange is available.


Well its working fine - but its nice to know an interchange
replacement is available if needed.

I posted pictures here:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=113743

and the replies indicate a belief that it was some sort of special. I
now believe that it was probably a promotional watch for the haircare
firm Schwartzkopf - as the little black head at 12 is identical.

The trademark judgement is at:

http://www.wcl.american.edu/journal/lawrev/47/pdf/matheson.pdf?rd=1

The fact that Harley-Davidson now markets Harley-Davidson watches
could explain their decision to take legal action several years after
Ronda first used the branding. They (HD) probably didn't do watches in
1980, but were thinking of doing so and wanted to protect the brand.

Many thanks for your replies.

Overall a nice looking watch though I'm not sure what the point is of
skeletonizing/putting a display back on a quartz watch where there is
nothing much to see. Perhaps in the early 80s quartz was still enough of a
novelty that people wanted to see them - I can't think of any modern quartz
with display backs/skeleton dials (though I'm sure I'm wrong - someone out
there does everything if you look hard enough).

"Schwartzkopf" translates as "Blackhead" which has a "secondary" meaning in
English (a pimple) which is not good. Perhaps this is why Henkel doesn't
use this brand in the US. But that's definitely the silhouette of the
haircare prod. co. and must have been a special order from them to give to
employees or somesuch.

I suppose the main reason for the Ronda loss is that Harley Davidson showed
prior use in the jewelry field, which is related to watches. First use is
very important in trademark law. Note that in the Omega examples I gave,
the other firms are in businesses completely unrelated to
jewelry/watchmaking. Also the fact that Ronda was not then currently using
the brand but only "intended" to resume use in the future could not have
helped their case. Again, Harley Ronda movements remain widely available so
I don't know what the follow up was here - normally if you lose a trademark
case you are restrained from marketing even existing inventories of the
infringing product and have to destroy the goods or at least remove the
offending mark.



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