Re: clothes soaking after wash

On Mar 11, 10:09 pm, nitroamos <nitroa...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok, I did the test... I fooled the mechanism so that I could run it
with the door open. I ran for 1 rinse cycle, which includes the final
spin cycle. I put in 2 towels and 2 shirts, so a bit of a load, but
not a lot. Turns out there was not too much splashing, and the water
never came up to the level of the door.

Here's what I observed:
* It looked like it got enough water in the tub...
* It spun at about 1 +/- 0.5 cycles per second, so 60 rpm, for about 5
seconds. Then it would stop, and do it the other way for 5 seconds. It
repeated that pattern,  while it was rinsing, for maybe 5-10 rounds...
* Then the water drained out. I thought I could hear a bit of
gurgling... but it's hard to tell if this was the sound of the water
going through drain pipe, or the sound of the pump slurping up the
last bits... but i'd guess the later.
* Then I guess it came time for the spin cycle, but it wasn't spinning
any faster than what I saw before (~60 rpm). It would spin for a while
in one direction, then switch. If it's supposed to be spinning at 800
rpm, then that's the problem right there.

Agree, that would seem to be the problem. Have you checked to see if
it spins fast between wash and rinse? That would help narrow it
down between control coming from the timer or brains as opposed to
something else.



* I pulled it out of its recess, and opened the back panel. The rubber
belt seems ok. it passes the 1" test prescribed in the service manual.
* I tried turning the wheel, and it felt a bit difficult to turn it
all the way by hand... i don't really have a good way of quantifying
the resistance, but i could turn it with 1 finger, even with
(difficult) the clothes. it did squeak a little bit... i tried
spraying some wd40 where the wheel meets the tub, but that didn't make
a difference.
* I ran it again with the back panel off, so i could see if it looked
like the belt was slipping... but that didn't seem to be happening.

Thanks for the service manual reference! I didn't know it was
available, because I thought maytag's website would have provided it
for me. anyway, i've looked through the whole thing (almost) and here
are some possible conclusions based on the observation that it tumbles
just fine, but doesn't spin:

1) there could be a balance problem; the inertial or displacement
sensor might be stuck. this would be consistent with my observation
that it was tumbling in both directions, trying to balance the (small)
load. it's evening now, and my machine is outside (covered...) so i'll
wait for tomorrow to test this.

That seems possible.




2) There could be a problem with the door lock, because someone said
that when they tried, the door popped open on them, although i've been
unable to duplicate that. the "locked" light does turn on... although
i'll need to test that the "Door Locked" light turns on when the timer
is in the Spin cycle explicitly...

If the door locked light turns on during the regular cycle, I doubt
very much that is the problem. It seems unlikely it would indicate
locked during the rest of the cycles and only go open during the spin
cycle.




3) there are a series of things to test continuity for... so maybe
i'll need to run to the store and get one of those devises.

4) check to see if there's a drain restriction


Given that it doesn't spin, I doubt that is the problem. But I would
have checked that first, as it's easy to do. IF it has a a drain
filter, make sure it's clean. I'd reroute the drain somehow
temporarily, even if it;s to a couple of 5 gal buckets, so you can
keep an eye on it. IF this is one of the newer front loaders, they
don't use much water. Also, seems unlikely it could be a drain issue
because I would think if it couldn't drain, you'd have other symptoms,
like soapy clothes.








ok... enough for today. :-)

On Mar 11, 3:59 pm, dhi...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:



nitroamos <nitroa...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
* I don't know if the machine is spinning, because it's front loading,
i don't know how to find out for sure.

The high speed spin on this machine is something like 800 RPM.  If
it's spinning, you'd know: it will sound like a jet engine taking off,
and if you look in the window, your stuff will, umm, spin round and
round really really fast.

Here is a service manual for the MAH3000AWW.  I would expect that most
of the troubleshooting info should be applicable for your model.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11205556/Maytag-Neptune-MAH3000AWW-Service-...

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