Re: OT: Shuttle Service By Auto Dealer

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 22:20:38 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:


"DerbyDad03" <teamarrows@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
As far as tipping the guy, that's up to you. I'll typically throw 'em
a couple of bucks with a "Grab yourself a cup of coffee" comment or

Maybe I shouldn't comment. I don't object to "Grab yourself a cup of
coffee" and I realize that the rest isn't meant to be spoken, but
"throw 'em a couple bucks" sounds so patronizing. Like you're
throwing dog biscuits to the dog. Well, even though it isn't meant to
be spoken, I think the description can affect the way it's done. How
about "give him a couple bucks".

something like that. You never know who these guys are...a millionaire
retiree who doesn't want to sit home and fade away or a minimum wage
earner trying to support 3 kids. Chat him up, feel him out and decide
from there.

If I were the customer I'd rather have a set amount I tipped than to
chat someone up just to figure out how much to give. I've asked lots
of personal questions to people I just met, so that's not my problem,
but the reason I'm willing to do that is that they can tell I have no
vested interest in their answers. Not even the difference between 2
dollars and 3 dollars.

The only difference would be if he was hanging around not getting
paid, just to be available to earn money this way, or if he is hourly,
or if he gets paid by the job (like a mechanic might). I don't
believe anyone just hangs around. That leaves b and c. I don't know
if mechanics at dealers work on a per job basis or not. But if it
takes him 5 minutes each way, and I'm sure it takes more, 2 dollars
for 10 minutes is still too low to pay a mechanic. And anyone lower
paid than a mechanic gets paid by the hour. So I'd be very surprised
if a guy who drives people home isn't getting his regular salary
during that time.

Bottom line: OP, stop guessing and ask the manager if the people who
drive you home are getting their regular salary during that time, or
if you should tip them and if the latter, how much.

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Our local dealer uses the Old Farts that would be at the coffee shop anyway
because that is what they did for the past 50 years or so before they
retired. They appreciate a couple of bucks.

OK so apparently at least one dealer doesn't, it seems, pay them
hourly, maybe. If they are not being paid by the dealer, they should
get paid by the customer.

I used to live in the city and there were lots of 10 year-old boys
hanging out at the small local supermarket, and it took me more than a
year to realize they weren't being paid by the store, even the ones
inside who were bagging. (I didn't think the ones outside who offered
to carry the groceries home were paid by the store.) So for more than
a year, I never tipped any of them a dime, and not one of them ever
said a thing or looked at me funny. I guess that would have been a
violation of their pride, for some reason.

It was a n'hood with a college and a lot of college and grad students,
and , A little while after I figured it out, I realized that all the
other students from the suburbs might be as oblivious to the kids'
situation as I was. So I went to the supermarket manager and asked
him not to pay them, but just to put up a sign that said he didn't pay
them and that they work for tips. The guy said, We don't want them
here anyhow. What a lie. Without those kids it would have either had
to hire baggers, or it would have taken almost twice as long for each
customer to check out, the lines would have been much longer, and
people would have gone to the bodega less than 2 blocks away or the
other bigger supermarket 3 long blocks away (people had shopping carts
anyhow.). I would have used my car to go shopping rather than wait in
long lines. So I understand the problem, and think people should be
paid.

OP find out what the situation is from the manager.


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