Re: OT, but you guys might know about shotguns.


trader4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
mm wrote:
They've been referring to the shot that *** Cheney shot the other guy
with as B-B's. But they also say it's 5mm.

Isn't that bigger than a B-B? About twice as big?

Do they use that term

a) because B-B's sound less violent than bird-shot?
b) because the doctors don't know exactly what a B-B is and/or they
used a word that they thought everyone could understand?
c) I had a fourth possibility but I can't remember it.
d) Because *I* don't know what a B-B is.

I also noticed someone call it buck-shot! :)

One network report I heard was that "most of the blast [or at least
most of the blast that hit him] hit him in the chest." When I first
heard about this, I thought the gun wasn't aimed high enough, and he
got one piece of shot in his face, one in his neck, and one in his
chest. But it sounds like the gun was pointed right at him. If that
is the case, how can the news suggest that he may have been in the
line of fire?

The fact that he was struck by a direct shot is the classic definition
of being in the line of fire, isn;t it? What he was hit by was bird
shot, which is roughly the same size as a BB used in an air gun. The
round shot pellets from a shotgun are sometimes referred to as BB's,
usually when talking about where one of them went, like "One of the
BB;s hit my winshield!" Which is easier than saying "One of the bird
shot pellets hit my windshield."



I don't hunt but I've been in the fields when quail or
pheasant are there, and I've seen them quickly fly straight up when I
get too close. Even if he was facing the birds, Cheney could not get
a shot off while the birds were still at arm level, and no way could
he turn around in time to do this (The news says he turned around to
fire.) Maybe he's getting old and doesn't lift the gun as easily as
he once did?? So he thought he had pushed the gun up but he hadn't.
(I have been trap shooting, and they're not light.)

From what has been told, it's not very clear exactly what happened.
One of the likely scenarios would be that Cheney was following a bird
that was flying off to one side. As he was swinging around, the buddy
was walking around.

Well from all the reports it's not clear what was going on. I've
photographed hunts with those farm raised and planted birds. The birds
are often so docile that the guides would have to kick them to get them
to flush. There were also reports that their wings were clipped, which
makes them not fly so good. That could account for the height problem.
In any case if you're line abreast and the bird crosses that line a
good hunter pulls off the target. In any case you should know your
target. I have hunted with guys that weren't aware of where they were
swinging their guns. I have also known guys in the Army that didn't
know which way to point their M-14. You quickly learn who to trust and
who you trust to cover you without shooting you in the back.
Richard

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