Re: So - did you get one ?

NM5K wrote:
On 12/27/2011 10:40 AM, Les Cargill wrote:

I like all them LP shaped gibsonettes, no matter if single
coil, or bucker.. Does yours have the usual sweet gibsonish
open chord sound?

It's got more bite and breath.

> I don't know if that rubs off on the epi's
or not.. It should, in theory..

It doesn't sound like humbuckers ( which is kinda the point ).

Guess I was misunderstood.. Not talking about the pickup
tone.. I'm talking about the "color" of the chord itself as
far as the tuning peculiarities.

Ah! I did not catch that. Yes, it's there.

To me, Gibsons have a
different chord color, particularly on the open chords
like G and D for the most glaring examples, than most other
geetars. Usually a very "sweet" open chord sound, maybe due
to them optimizing the intonation for those chords over
others farther up the neck..

Nah, it's just that the G string is sharp as hell for three frets
up....

This is just a guess to the
reason.. My 60 Gibson has this "sweetness", where my other
geetar doesn't really. As an example, AC/DC seems to
take advantage of this, even though Malcolm uses a Gretch
or whatever.. Maybe it's chord voicing is similar to a
Gibson... It gives open chords a very pure quality, even
if distortion is applied.
It gives the open chords a very sweet, almost chimey
quality that many other geetars don't seem to have.
But then on the other hand, some people may not really
notice the difference if their ears aren't as picky as
mine.. Most all Fenders have a slightly different open
chord voicing than the usual Gibson.. My trem geetar is
a good bit different than my Gibson. I don't like it
as well as the Gibson on those open chords.
Just curious if those have Epi's have the typical Gibson
chord voicing on the open chords. I guess I could go to
the store and check for myself.. Probably the best way
to tell. :)

Probably.

Also.. Most Gibsons that have the chord voicing I like
tend to like the G string tuned just a teeny hair flat..

Yes. Although my thinking is that this is not "sweet" because
the ET fifth is *slightly* under a Just fifth, and I think
of "sweet" tuning as a compromise between Just and ET.

I am probably using that as a term of art, and you're using it
just to be descriptive. I know what you mean, though. it's
kinda ... sadder, with a ever so slightly flattened fifth.
it has a bluer vibe.

My 60 Gibson is that way..

I was looking at the various examples of those Epi's,
and one that I am considering has dual buckers instead
of the P-90's.. Not that I don't like P-90's, but I think
I like the overall setup and looks maybe better on this
one.. It's set up a bit more like a Les Paul than the Les
Paul jr/Special.. IE: buckers, Tune-O-Matic bridge and
stopbar tailpiece, vs the wraparound bridge.


That is too close to what I already have.

I don't really require the P-90's as I already have the
Melody Maker with the single coil. It's pretty close to a
P-90 sound. But I could use a Les Paul clone with buckers
for the heavier rawk.. I could always swap the pickups
if I wanted something else down the road..


Yep. There's an embarrassment of options. I really
like the overwound Rio Grande pickups because
they "clean up" with backing down the volume knob,
unlike most overwound ( circa 20Kohm ) pickups.

I kinda like the looks of this one in "Vintage Sunburst"..
That's a pretty gewd looking geetar for $144+tax..
Should play about the same as the one you have. I
assume the necks are the same. Sure, they are bolt on's,
but what the hey... My 60 is a set neck.. No bolts..

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Special-II-Electric-Guitar-100001870-i1149986.gc


They also make some pretty close Les Paul clones for a
little more money.. Also SG versions.. But I prefer the
single cutaway generally.
Such as this.. Should play and sound about the same as
the $144 version, but a more conventional Les Paul style
layout and pickguard.. I don't know if that would matter
to me or not.. Probably not that much really..

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-100-Electric-Guitar-100246478-i1150098.gc




What that will not have is a maple cap.

--
Les Cargill
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