Re: You CANNOT rock it out live with a 15 watt amp!

On 3/16/2010 2:26 PM, TheChris wrote:
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On Mar 16, 10:55 am, Wrong_Note_Rod<wrongnote...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:29:32 +0000 (UTC), TheChris wrote:
Squier<squ...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:150320102020041307%
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c'mon people. I know I don't have the experience most of you have
but there is no way you can play in a hard rockin band doing live
gigs and shows with a 15 watt amp. You can't even hear your own
amp on stage as a stage monitor. Your amp needs life support
just to be heard (mic'd out to PA and mic'd out to floor wedges
so you can hear yourself). ugh.

I really think for harder live rockin out you need
at least a dual EL34, 6L6, KT66.. etc power section.
you should have enough punch and cut and power to be
able to pull it off un-mic'd if necessary.
I am not sure where you guys are playing - but in younger
crowd clubs and bars we really get it dialed up and crankin'.
It's just something that comes with playing these places.

Those dual EL84, 6V6,, etc just don't cut it.
(yeah I know you have 18 watt Marshall clone and it SLAYS!
um... yeah ok.. in basement practices or backyard porch jams
with a light footed drummer and the other guitarist is playing
through a 15 watt amp. sure ok. then that's cool.)

I am NOT talking about great tones. I am talking about
enough punch and volume and headroom and watts to drive a 2x12 or
4x12
and be heard and sit in the mix be it your mic'd up or not
and your band is ROCKIN. Not playing soft rock or just bloooze
or cleaner country stuff (usually in the mix with acoustics).

So please don't tell me how your Orange Tiny Tincan Terror
ROCKS OUT.. it's enough to GiG wiTH. ummm... gimme a break.
Pop your zits somewhere else.

heh. I am Squier's eViL twin! Ok I am just sorta razzing some
people out there. But there's a bit of truth to what I'm saying.

Nonsense... I've done gigs with my 100 Watt Marshall Half stack
where i
f
I walked to a certain area on the stage... I couldn't hear it..

And, I've done hundreds of gigs with my Blues Jr. where it's just
KILLED.

OK I forgot about that. I've done many shows with an unmic'd blues
junior
,
turned up, using pedals, and it worked fine. Granted, those shows
were wi
th
a sort of alt-pop band with a chick drummer who doesnt pound the poor
things into submission. I have also tried it with my harder rock
cover ba
nd
with guy drummer, doesnt work as well.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Do you use a MAKE IT CLEAN pedal? Where did you get it? Cause a Blues
Jr cranked sound like trash for and kind of recognizable chords
( unless its grunge and then maybe it doesn't matter) - ok except for
lead lines and mostly single notes it might be ok (but still whimpish
without assistance IMO)..I had one, great for home alone - sucked
with and kind of band - took it back . e..


I play mine with the master pegged, and the pre as my volume knob...

And you ought to get a good 15W clean. When it starts to clip, you're probably pushing over 15W.


I
play it pretty clean - using pedals for distortion. Fender distortion
was never a good thing...

Fender PREAMP distortion was never a good thing. There are plenty of GREAT Fender distorted tones, relying on power tube distortion.
.

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