Re: OT: Computer help!!
- From: "RichL" <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 22:22:43 -0400
Claude V. Lucas <claudel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <xOOdncvQLum-ipPXnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
RichL <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Claude V. Lucas <claudel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <C_WdnRwnYNVjlJPXnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
RichL <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Claude V. Lucas <claudel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <9JOdnfU46_ruYpDXnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
RichL <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
RichL <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nil <rednoise@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12 May 2009, "RichL" <rpleavitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
alt.guitar:
Anyone?
Have you checked Windows Event logs? You might find some clues
there.
One thing I've seen that can produce symptoms similar to what
you describe is the setting within the network adapter that
determines the speed at which it communicates to the network.
Usually "Automatic" does it, but sometimes it seems to work
better with other devices if you specify. Go to Device Manager
| Network Adapters | Advanced and look for a setting labeled
something like "Speed and Duplex". Set it to 100Mbps Full
Duplex, or whatever your network can handle. Sometimes even
just changing the setting, confirming the change, then setting
it back to Auto will set things right.
OK, I tried this. When I brought up the Device Manager/Speed
and Duplex it was set to Auto mode but it had already selected
100 Mbps/Full Duplex. I did as you said, forced it to
100/full, and now I can connect. Again I'm only connected to
newsgroups through OE at this point, it remains to be seen if
it will handle IE, Firefox etc. without problems. I'll check
right now.
OK, I lost it again. But I can get it back, at least for a very
short period, by repeating this procedure (or so it seems).
When I lose the connection, I get a network icon in the system
tray with a red x, and if I hold the mouse over that it says
something like "no network connection". But when I change
speed/duplex using Device Manager, that icon disappears and I'm
temporarily back in business.
Do you think this narrows down the possible list of causes?
Did you try a different cable?
Yes, I've swapped cables with the one on my other machine.
The thing is, this problem is so intermittent that it's difficult
to completely rule out a cable problem.
Nil's suggestion DOES seem to wake up the connection, at least
temporarily.
At the present time, I can use Device Manager -> Duplex/Speed
settings to restore the internet connection but running either IE
or Firefox and visiting more than a couple of web pages seems to
screw things up. But if I stick to OE/newsgroups I'm OK for an
extended period.
It's good to lock in a speed/duplex rather than let the thing
thrash on auto trying to decide. The speed/duplex setting needs
to match the router port... Setting it to 10 instead of 100 hides
some marginal problems sometimes. It's not as if you're going fast
enough on the cable to gain anything using 100 unless you copy stuff
machine to machine locally. Lots of stuff.
Changed to 10/full, opened firefox, read 2 e-mail messages, lost
connection.
Reset to auto, back in business with OE/newsgroups, reluctant to open
any other internet apps for now.
Try a different router port. Plug the other machine into the
port the problem machine is using and see if the problem follows.
Done a while back. The problem stays with this computer regardless
of cable, router port, etc.
Hard boot the router and cable modem. Leave 'em off for awhile.
Done several times. No effect.
You *did* say the machine has been scanned by something up-to date?
It was up to date as of the last time I had a fully functioning
internet connection. I'll attempt to download updates tonight but
I'm not optimistic.
Did you update any software before things went weird?
Updated Firefox a few weeks back. There was some immediate
wierdness; I had to create a new profile for some streaming audio
plugins to work. Previously, I had been running Firefox 2.x. I
mentioned several posts back that I thought there might be some
incompatibility issues between Firefox 3.x and Win2K. I'm still
thinking (somewhat) along those lines but I'm wondering why IE seems
to be affected as well. I suppose it's possible that Firefox
installation "updated" some shared DLL file that's causing the
problem.
<http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Support+Website+Forums>
If it happens with IE too then it's probably not the browser.
Java update?
<Java.com>
Perhaps there was a subterranean event in the ethernet card's
logic labyrinth and the bits are getting lost.
New ethernet card - cheap.
The only reason I'm hesitating on that is that I'm leaning toward
replacing the computer (and I was thinking about doing that before
this issue arose).
Judging from what I've seen so far, it seems to be a traffic issue.
Usenet -> small text-only files, the connection seems to stay alive
for a long time. Web browser -> lots of images, large files being
downloaded.
I'll try updating McAfee virus definition files now and see how that
goes.
If you don't already have it, get the final W2K Service Pack and
reload it.
OK, I'll try the java update and reinstalling the last Win2K SP. Right
now I have SP4, I think that's the most recent version.
.
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