Re: Slightly OT: Metal Gig

On Dec 22, 11:53 am, "Monster Zero" <rockin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"RichCI" <ric...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

news:2212bc75-0c67-4f86-91fd-29d3681621d1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Dec 21, 7:26 pm, "Monster Zero" <rockin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Got a chance to be the only guitar in a 4 piece Metal band that does like
50-50 covers and originals. Been fiddling with my current rig and I can't
seem to get a very good "Metal" sound out of it..I'm guessing it's my
speakers, I'm having a volume issue. I've got the sound I want at bedroom
levels but as the volume goes up the speakers start to fart and I have to
turn the bass down too much to get it to stop farting. This rig works
excellent BTW for classic rock and clean stuff.

I'm thinking of adding a 4x12 but I really, really, I mean really don't
want
to have to do that. The Carvin XV212 I have is already heavy enough and I
don't want to lug a 4x12 around too. Could the speakers be farting because
they need to be re-coned or repaired? Should I maybe try a set of another
type of speaker and see what that does? What would you guys suggest?

I'm going to need something that can handle a good amount of bass and some
top end. I was thinking maybe Celestion G12K 75's or maybe a Lead 80 and a
75.

I've been phucking with this rig for hours on end and am pretty frustrated
at this point because I have the pedals to do the "Metal Thing" and the
guitar for it but the amp speakers can't seem to handle much bass at all.
I
realize that when I jam with the band and the bass guitar is mixed in it
won't be as bad but I also know I should be able to get better bass than
what I am getting which is next to nothing at gig/practice levels. FWIW my
former 1976 SF Twin (Loaded with a G12K 75 and a Lead 80) had bass for
days
at huge volumes with no farting at all.

Any help is appreciated.

I did some Googling on your amp and it looks like it has separate tone
controls plus a graphic EQ.  Going on the assumption that the tone
controls (bass, middle, treble) effect the sound going into the preamp
and the graphic EQ is after the preamp, I would try messing with
those.  Get the best preamp distortion that you can using the tone
controls, being mindful not to crank the bass up too much so that it
gets mushy then reciprocate for the bass by boosting it using the
graphic EQ.  If the problem really is your speakers, then this
probably won't help but it can't hurt to try.

Yes that's correct. The tone controls are active and the eq is passive.
That's pretty much what I've been doing as far as tweaking the amp goes. I
set everything flat and then tweak from there but as soon as I get to a
suitable bass level (really not a lot) it farts at around 2 on the volume
and that's about gig/practice level. I've also lowered my bridge pickups a
little and it slightly helps but I'm getting more and more convinced I've
got some worn out, beat up speakers that can't handle anything over a
certain range.


Yeah, if those are the original speakers in your amp and memory serves
me correctly from drooling over the Carvin catalogs when I was in
highschool, they might be around 25 years old.
.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Phasing of the speakers
    ... The sound was "deeper" this way. ... When a drum is beaten, the skin is forced down creating a suction wave. ... two 12" bass reflex drivers in reflex speakers capable of going down to ... But In perceive the bass to be ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
  • Re: European sound tuned....??
    ... "American sound tuned" on them, on the Japanese ones it has ... Japanese products sold here had the speakers ... weight to the bass volume. ...
    (uk.rec.audio)
  • Re: Sound Quality Problem
    ... I play the same mp3 on my FC6 and WinXP on the same PC using the same ... it does not sound too differently between that in FC6 ... drums, bass, etc come in the music. ... on old bad speakers. ...
    (Fedora)
  • Re: Slightly OT: Metal Gig
    ... Been fiddling with my current rig and I can't ... speakers, ... I've got the sound I want at bedroom ... I'm going to need something that can handle a good amount of bass and some ...
    (alt.guitar)
  • Re: Amps for long-distance listeners
    ... speakers are for an entirely different class of listener, ... He uses one of my 8585 amps and says the sound is quite marvellous. ... because the bass reinforcement allowed us to turn the volume down and ...
    (rec.audio.tubes)
Loading