Re: Do you aim to please (in composing?)

I wouldnt pay any attention to the person who said it was too much of a
hit song. No writer ever wrote a song in hopes that only a few people
would like it.
Music either writing or playing has its bottom line sitting on ego. To be a
hit song people have too like it enough to buy it. Success in the music
industry is measured by money made and songs sold. First you need to get
your name associated with writing hit songs and then anything after that you
write will have more of a chance of being accepted. With success comes
power. Get some power and then maybe you can be remembered as the guy who
turned the music industry around and got music back on the right track.
Write songs to the best of your ability and with the hopes that they will
knock peoples dicks in the dirt. I think that anyone who ever picks up a pen
to write or an instrument to play has a secret desire to become famous. If
you dont have conquering the world as your ultimate goal in music then
you're just wasting your time and life with persuing it. Stick with model
trains.. I've always felt that yourself teamed with dvaoa have the ability
to be World beaters. In your case DeeAa .It sounds to me like you're
surrounding yourself with limp dicks who dont want you to ever outgrow their
limited natural talents. You more than anyone else I've seen here has the
ability to go far with music and to not die in obscurity. When it comes to
writing hit songs what would you rather do. Please some half talent friend
or make a good living and be able to leave something for your children so
that maybe life is a little easier for them.
Write the hits you freaking knob head. That is unless you fear success. If
you dont then the only thing you're selling out is yourself and family.
Why in the *** do you think I've been sending you lyrics for? I'm using
you to help me because when teamed with the right people you can make us all
fucking rich. Get your head outta your *** and get it while you can Dee.
You aint gonna get a second chance.

"DeeAa" <deeaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just for discussion's sake.

I made a song a little while back, and a friend remarked it 'was good
but too much of a hit song'.

I stopped composing it further. Begun thinking once again how funny it
is that it is so strange how, as a composer, I like most people I
know, kind of strive for that elusive goal of making music that would
be appealing to many people - I mean, what's the point of making stuff
nobody likes - but at the same time viciously shunning the idea of
making a 'hit' song.

It just feels like it'd be selling out to make songs that would have
that 'instant appeal.'

You know what I mean. All you need to do a great poprock hit for
instance is lock into a nice groove with D, C, G etc. and play a happy
catchy melody on top, and thrown in some nice vox and then it's just a
matter of getting a pretty and marketable presenter for it, and voila.

So where does the border lie therein? It's very hard to define, isn't
it? Sometimes you just make a song that has that great catchy
progression, and you just have to throw in some dim chords and maybe
add an obtrusive or aggressive passage, so it won't be too 'sellout'.

It's like this band I know, they got a recording contract with this
great demo, which had like 8 songs and 4 of those were really catchy.
I saw them live a year after that, and shouted for one of those songs
from the audience and the singer said into the mike: 'sorry we sold
those songs to other bands, they were too fucking commercial'. And the
crowd went wild with YEAAAHHH! Keep it real guys! etc. And now they
have this fanatic following, but remain very obscure to the great
public. I'd prefer that to fame, would you?

On the other hand, it's often somehow OK to make hit songs too as long
as they're not completely 'hit' and include decidedly non-hit parts
etc...making 'em sort of mockery of the whole idea of a 'hit'.

Like that BYOB song by System of Down - a really great tune bordering
of being too 'hit'. But just saved by having those aggre parts that
are basically saying : this ain't no hit crap tune, man! to the
listener. I can dig that. or 'Artschool Girl' by Stone
temple...excellent hit, but saved by that throat-destroying punk part
from becoming a hit.

Anyway, maybe this is an interesting issue for people here? (too much
spare time @ work here...:-)

Cheers,

Dee


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