Re: This is wrong

On Feb 2, 12:08 am, mirt54 <mir...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, as you so aptly told another member recently, use "common
sense"!!


The success of the example you gave, Penn State, due in large part to
the successful athletic programs, attracts MORE in-state and out-of-
state students, most of whom are non-athletes.

Actually, the QUALITY of admissions has risen dramatically. In a
typically myopic rant-run, you've chosen to see only quantity. Take a
GOOD look at the population of University Park / Main Campus PSU. It
has changed very little in the
years since Penn State became a Big 10 school or expanded the capacity
of Beaver Stadium from about 65K to over 100K. But- don't let the
facts interrupt your opinion...

Therfore, new buildings, faculty, and programs are logically added to accomodate the
increased student population, resulting in MORE subsidies to build the
new buildings, and pay the new salaries, which, in turn, are funded
(subsidized heavily, at least) by Pennsylvania taxpayers.

1. You're already wrong w/ the quantity issue. It's about quality.
2. You've skipped acknowledgement of municipal bond sales underwriting
capital improvement budgets.
3. You've chosen to focus on tax subsidization while ignoring the
tuition,
room and board break PA residents get relative to out-of-state
students.

 Tell me,mvm, SIR, if the football revenue is in any way used to build,
maintain buildings, pay salaries etc. and accomodate all of the non-
athlete students??

The revenue influx from football to the General Fund is massive and
gets
apportioned by the Board of Directors wherever it's needed
http://tinyurl.com/yvr8lj
Department heads all compete amongst each other for a piece of the
action.
Athletic revenue, endowment, charitable gifts, tax revenue, municipal
bond
sales and tuition/room/board all combine to provide the $$$ that runs
a public
institution of higher learning.

 I don't know for sure, but my "common sense" tells
me that much, if not all of the excess revenue from the football, and
b-ball programs goes right back into scholarships to attract fresh
athletes for all of the sports programs.

If you want to excorciate a public institution, take a look at Ohio
State. Their
sports budget ALONE is > $100 MILLION / yr. the highest in the USA by
far.
Otherwise, as goes PSU, see above, and if you want specifics, you're
free to
do your own research!

 Little, if any, goes to help us taxpayers or the in-state, out-of-state non-athlete students I
would conclude.  

See tuition breaks- if you can make the grade to get in!

And the out-of-state students still are subsidized...in all state
colleges, my friend.

What?! They pay a huge premium over state residents. ?!

 Think before you post, SIR!

... ;-)...ah, ok Marty, I'll be sure to do that...

Facts and Marty aren't too terribly tight eh? :-) mvm- Hide quoted text -

Common sense and mvm aren't too terribly tight, eh? :-) Marty

yeee-ah...OK Marty, you sure demonstrated -something- here! :-) mvm

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