Re: more things learned about the telecaster
- From: Rufus <not@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:38:06 GMT
RC_Moonpie wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:42:29 +1000, "Grinner" <grinner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
"RC_Moonpie" <rc_moonpies@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:hnn5d3lamsjs7vrot331otu65u3uhrvocu@xxxxxxxxxxOn Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:42:02 -0300, Squier <squier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:were there many bands called 'X'. the only band Ic an think of with that name were a punk outfit, slimilar to NIN but predating them 10 or 15 years or so.
In article <bCjAi.76610$Fc.66880@attbi_s21>, Rufus <not@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Squier wrote:I was playing my Deluxe Tele last night through a friends Mesa LonestarSquier <squier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ok - here's the thing - my friend stayed over
and we have been playing our fingers off.
this is what we definitely agree on after careful listening.
the telecaster completely rules when it comes to leads.
there is nothing like it. period.
he plays a Gibson SG and uses this little Marshall 18 watt tube amp.
it's some older thing he was given. but is really cool.
hey don't laugh it sounds good. And he hooks into a 2 x 12 (that is
actually 2 marshall 1x12 cabs). Obviously this setup makes for
easy transporting and gives a big huge sound when cranked or
it still sounds pretty good at lower volumes and he can always
unhook one of the cabs and play through 1x12 for reduced volume
but able to keep the amp cranked.
I have my 2 Strats here (double-fat and regular single coil)
and also my Telecaster. (single coils). And I played through
my Mesa Express 5:25 at the 25-30 watt setting and also hooked
up an extension cab (home made 1x12 birch cab with Eminence Red Coat
"Red Ryder" speaker). The little 1x10 cabs are taking a rest ;)
We decided for a while to only use some slight gain from tube drive
type pedals (he has mod'd TS808 and I like to use MI Audio Blues Pro pedal).
So no big distortion pedals being used or super gain or fuzz or whatever.
ok - here's the thing. The SG and my double-fat strat (2 'buckers
instead of 3 single coils) both get this nice fat sound to them. Chords
really sound full with overtones.. etc. Even single notes sound round and fat.
But no matter what we did they always have this nice sorta fat sound to them
compared to single coils. And here's the real thing - the Telecaster gets
this laser like very precise note definition without all that fat or round
sound - which at first I had to get used to - it is even more laser like
or defined than my Strat single coil guitar. At first the Tele sounded
kinda thin -- but wait a sec!! He played his SG and then I hooked up
the Telecaster and only used the tube screamer for a slight boost and
then he kicked in a few more pedals and began to crunch. And I am telling
you the truth that the Telecaster cut through each and every time with
its tone. I am talking basically clean with slight boost. You can hear it
like a defined laser beam coming through. I then played my single coil strat
and it has some tone cutting by nowhere near the Telecaster.
The fat strat (with my friend playing away on the SG) really had to use
volume to cut through the SG's rhythms and could not really do it alone
using clean tone. Or I could cut with a little more volume and FX pedals
but it would not cut through on its own.
So here's the thing I learned -- single coils can cut through humbuckers
on tone alone. You really don't need much volume boost with a nice humbucker
sound doing the rhythm work in the background. And the Telecaster is the
master of that cutting single coil sound. I do not like (yet anyways) so much
the Telecaster for rhythm playing unless it is playing along with another
single coil guitar such as another Strat or tele. But it makes for the
best lead guitar sounds.
I like the humbuckers better for rhythm although my friend's SG actually
has this little toggle that lets him tap the coils so he can get a pseudo
single coil sound which is pretty cool. And when he does leads he likes
to use the coil tap because even he agrees it cuts through better with tone.
Anyways - what I used to think sounded a bit thin was wrong.
When you are playing with another person the Telecaster really shines through
and it doesn't sound thin at all - it is really focused and powerful laser.
I felt like Darth Vader wielding a light saber black Tele it cut so good!
I still have to sorta dial in the neck pickup sound which I think can
do a good rhythm once I figure it out (the middle selection of neck and bridge
is a very nice sound kinda chimey and jangly but really doesn't sound too
good for rhythms in heavier music but great for single coil country clean stuff).
Hey - even though my friend has SG he uses humbuckers and coil taps
and we play a lot of country rock type of stuff. Brad Paisley, Kenny Chesney,
Clint Black. So we started out playing Summertime and Fast Forward and a few others.
But the favorite songs we did was grinding out some Neil Young and Crazy Horse tunes.
Cinnamon Girl, Hey Hey My My, Downtown (Let's go downtown where the hippies all go),
Rockin in the free world, and I can Really Dance we also tried Heart of Gold but
got tired and shut it down for a while.
So -- if you want a guitar that will simply cut through anything with tone alone -
get a Telecaster. Humbuckers don't stand a chance! heh.
I have much more to learn. But it is a cool ride so far!
oops - I forgot to mention one other thing -
the only thing about the Telecaster (for me) doing leads (well attempting to
do leads) is that the Stratocaster is easier to play past the 16th fret or so.
The Telecaster is not as easy to get up there unless I really stop and think
and adjust how my thumb wraps around the neck because the telecaster up there
has the bigger neck heel and stuff and doesn't cut away the body as much.
At least my American Standard doesn't. Maybe the tele deluxes make it easier (??)
I don't care though - it is just something to work through.
But I thought I would mention it.
(to my new Mooger Foogers for him - he has a MIM Thinline) and
discovered it actually sounds pretty nice for clean rhythms if I had the
pickup selector set for both. But yeah - it SCREAMS and SINGS using the
bridge pickup only, and even more so when I set the tone knob to bypass.
I positively LOVE it with the tone circuit bypassed, and play it that
way most of the time. Crispy, crunchy, clean, sparky, spanky,
distinctive...I can't come up with enough adjectives. Yeah - it beats a
Strat (even if there are a few Strat sounds that will eventually make me
buy one)...I've even been playing Halen, Bush, and Alice in Chains tuned
down a half step and using my Tele, much to the amazement of my bass
player.
...and I've developed a fondness for that Mesa Lonestar as well.
cool! another Tele player - Teles rule!
I can't stop playing mine. Good to hear you
are really having fun with yours and getting great sounds.
Yeah - my friend was amazed at hos this supposed 'country twanger'
makes way more sounds than we both imagined - and I'm just scratching
the surface still.
for another great example of a good tele player making some
bonecruching sounds thru a big Boogie stack, check out a couple of
albums by the Los Angeles band called X... player named Tony
Gilkyson.... albums are either See Who We Are or a terrific live
album, "X live at the whiskey a go-go"
most X albums feature another player, Billy Zoom, he's quite excellent
thats them probably. early stuff was very punk... sort of a cross
between rockabilly and punk. Popular in the early 80s. The Telecaster
Boogie stack guy came a little later, late 80s maybe.
X...ahhh...Exene Cervenka...
--
- Rufus
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