Re: Three Annoying False Statements



Guncho wrote:
On Jul 6, 3:11 am, "Don Evans" <gtrdonev...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Guncho wrote:
On Jul 1, 5:05 pm, "Don Evans" <gtrdonev...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
iarwain wrote:
So in my view you've just put up three strawmen that severely
oversimplify
discussions that have actually taken place on these matters

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I know this is Usenet but frankly I don't understand where the
hostility comes from in this thread (not necessarily talking about
you here). I don't see where anything I said qualifies as being
controversial. True, I made general statements in the interest of
brevity, perhaps I could have worded them better. Instead of
"guitarists should never play fast" I could have substituted
"shredding is boring" or "fast guitar solos are boring". I
believe I even went out of my way to say that each point (which I
disagree with) has its own nugget of truth and valid point to
make, so how am I here to cause trouble?

The speed issue seems to be the touchiest, for whatever reason. A
lot of people have talked about playing melodically, whether fast
or slow. However, those are not the people I am talking about.
If you've read these threads, you know a lot of posters have
simply made statements saying "shredders suck" or "fast guitar
players are only being athletic, not musical". This is what I am
referring to.

If someone is mainly interested in playing old style blues for
instance that is great, and they probably don't need much speed.
But I am unwilling to dismiss other musicians' efforts on their
instruments just because it may not be my cup of tea. I respect
Joe Satriani as a musician for example, even though I don't have
any interest in playing like him. It's obvious that he's put in
a lot of practice in order to improve his technique and play his
instrument proficiently, and I don't see how that's a bad thing.

Okay, using a lot of technique isn't for everybody, depending on
what kind of music they are trying to perform. But I don't think
someone should put down another player for wanting to improve
their technique just because they're not interested in it.

To me, it's very simple, really. If you can't play fast, then
there are some things you just can't play. How that can be a plus,
I really don't know. I'm far from my idea of a fast player, but
that doesn't mean I don't work at it. I will probably never want
to play in shredder mode, but that is not all you can do with
speed. Plus, if you can play well fast, you can probably play
slowly better ... cleaner, and with more control ... than if you
could not.

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I don't know about that. I find that players who like to play fast
have similar mentalities as drivers with suped up cars who like to
drive fast. They don't like to drive slow.

Chris

That's not what I said. Some guys like speed as a way to show off.
Some guys just want it as part of what they do. Would you really
rather ride with a guy who wasn't good enough to drive fast?

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I'd rather not drive with someone who regularily drives excessively
fast.

Chris

Me too ... where's the argument? That said, I'd rather drive with a good
driver who can cope with whatever comes up ... and quickly sometimes.

Don


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