Re: Question about Gibson Electronics
- From: Squier <squier@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 17:45:03 -0300
In article <1178556950.195747.171530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Guncho <cgunter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 7, 9:47 am, Squier <squ...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I agree with you here about what you said.
The thing is Keith is that as I have said before -
there is a big difference between what you are going to do playing live
and what it is that people do when they play practice at home and/or
within a quiet studio.
Most people that have never played out live in a band setting just
do not really understand that all those little nuances and tweaking
and whatever else one does in a bedroom setting (or studio) is something
that no one in a live audience is going to notice at all.
Any 'tweaks' in a live setting are not little tweaks - the audience
will hear the difference between a clean amp setting and when you
kick on 3 distortion pedals. But they are not going to hear that slight
blend of pups or that subtle volume control change. You have to make
changes simple and easily defined and distinguished playing live.
Out of the 3 Strats I have - two of them have been mod'd so that they
have one master volume and one master tone for all 3 pups and our
luthier wired in some 'cap' thing so that as I turn the volume down
the tone stays the same. This one volume, one tone makes it easy to
just reach down and dial in what you want - no fuss or muss and that
darn volume control that Fender puts in the way right at the bridge pup
is a pain and it is easily hit. So the volume/tone is just moved
down to the lower part of the pickguard and moved out of harm's way
and there is a small hole where the volume pot used to be.
One day I'll have a custom pickguard cut - but for now that small
hole where the volume pot was moved from is no big deal.
However, if I ever record anything I am sure that these guitars
designed for live play work can easily dial in whatever 'subtle'
tweaking is necessary to sound good in a quiet recording environment
as they are quite capable of playing at home in a quiet practice setting
when no one is here to play with.
Tone geeks (I find) are usually (but not all the time) stay at home wannabes
that obesess about things that only someone in the same bedroom might be
able to hear. Live players are more straight up and don't obsess nearly
as much. One is not better than another - each has its own fun about it -
but there is definitely a line drawn and too many times the bedroom players
come up with advice for live playing and should stay in their bedrooms
and keep their incessant tweaking and obessions and compulsions there
where only they can hear it. (cause a live audience surely won't)
that's my rant.
I don't always agree with you Keith - but this time you're kinda right.
Keith Adams <keithad...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Its worthless and a bad idea. Blending,Randy Rhodes?
Give me a break. Who gives a flying f--k about Randy Rhodes? The amount of
blending you get isnt going to be noticed by anyone listening to you
live.The person playing the guitar wont even be able to tell a difference in
a band situation and you're not going to be able to tell the band to stop
for a second so that you can get it adjusted to your satisfaction.. It all
depends on if you're a performer who uses his guitar as a tool ( 1 vol. and
1 tone ) or a little kids toy (fergus ) . It seems all fine and dandy when
you're in your bedroom and imagining you're a rock star.You can tell RichL
is experienced because he suggested an alternative with the different caps.
They give an accurate and palpable difference in tones with a click of a
knob. You always know where you're at with it and you're not standing on a
stage twiddling with knobs when you should be trying to get yourself into
the groove of the song being played
"RGB" <-...@xxx> wrote in message
I just bought a Gibson Les Paul Studio yesterday and was surprised to
discover that the two volume controls are only useful for adjusting the
volume of the individual pickups when you're only using one or the
other pickup. If the toggle is in the center position, with both
pickups active, either volume control functions as a master volume. So
my question is: what's the point of having two volume controls at all?- Hide quoted text -
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He's not right at all. If I didn't have a volume pedal I would
constantly be adjusting my volume knobs as that is how I control
whether my sound is dirty or clean. A lot of people do this. On my
Les Paul I always have the tone knob on my neck pickup at 8 as I find
10 a little harsh. Would some drunk guy in the bathroom notice this?
Not likely? But I will and that's what matters. That it sounds good
well Chris - there is not always one good answer.
the topic here was what difference the audience would notice.
you agreed they would not notice.
you also stated that you would notice the difference
your answer implies that what matters to you is what is best for you.
it also implies that it doesn't really matter whether the audience
notices or not.
but back to the point of the topic you replied to:
you do admit that the audience probably would not notice at all.
and that's the point. they won't and they don't.
however - if it makes you feel better when playing - then sure thing -
have all the volume tweaks you feel good about or feel you need at your disposal -
-- whatever floats your boat and makes you happy.
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