Re: I want to buy a combo valve amp . .

Nivlem wrote:

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:54:17 -0800, Jim
<askme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Nivlem wrote:


On 17 Mar 2006 08:15:16 -0800, "Guncho"
<cgunter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Keith Adams wrote:


Guys I'm sorry but every one of those amps you've mentioned and like so
much are disposables. I reckon it isnt your fault that you dont know
any better. You were born in the age of disposable
diapers,lighters,marriages,automobiles and amps. In other words boys
they aint nothing but junk.

Hey if junk is good enought for tonnes of major label guitarists, it's
good enough for me.

Chris


In a certain way, I don't think this is a good argument. By
definition, these are guys who can afford to blow up an amp
every two weeks. My argument would be, if PC-board
construction is robust enough for an F18 fighter, it should
work for me.

Ah, but there's a bit of a difference between Mil Spec fighter jet boards and crap that you find in most modern mass produced guitar amps.

My main problem with printed circuit board construction is when they start mounting hardware to them. Jacks, pots and tube sockets do NOT belong soldered to boards! They are FAR MORE LIKELY to cause problems than flying leads. Plus, they make it a royal PITA to do repairs. If you want to do mods, turret board, fish board or point to point is bests. For most purposes, I don't have a problem with printed circuit boards. UNLESS they have pots, jacks, or God forbid TUBE SOCKETS soldered to them.


Granted. The first amp I ever had was a Fender SS POS
practice amp. Just playing a guitar with humbuckers through
it made the speaker produce farting noises, and the
distorted tone was dreadful. What can I say? It was cheap.
The input jack failed pretty quickly, and was soldered
directly to the board, making replacing it much more trouble
than it was worth. I traded it for a 6-pack of malt liquor
and probably got over on the deal.

LOL!

I bought a Mesa combo
with my next 2 paychecks, and never looked back. I still
have it. It still works just fine, so the fact that the pots
and jacks weren't soldered directly to the board has been
neither here nor there, although that was a selling point at
the time.

Mesa's are still a bitch to work on. I can't remember exactly what my Mark III looks like inside, but I know that it was so difficult to remove the board that I opted to simply tack a new plate resistor on the back of an open one. WAY too much hassle to reach the traces.
.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: I want to buy a combo valve amp . .
    ... much are disposables. ... UNLESS they have pots, jacks, or God forbid TUBE SOCKETS ... The first amp I ever had was a Fender SS POS ...
    (alt.guitar)
  • Re: Marshall amp advice
    ... You repeat the issues with these horozontal jacks ... I also forgot to mention that within the past week I also had to resolder the circuit board mounted pots on an effects pedal that I'm modifying. ... It's an amp. ...
    (alt.guitar.amps)
  • Re: Marshall amp advice
    ... For a guy that doesn't do his own soldering and maintenance, it brings up the risk of a tech bill. ... He'd check it over, tighten jacks and pots, etc. ... I have seen techs posting on this very issue in this very amp. ... she proceeded to tell him his guitar sounded like a toy! ...
    (alt.guitar.amps)
  • Re: Marshall amp advice
    ... It isn't like all horozontal jack 2204's are having their jacks go pop ... I don't think you intend to run your Marshall that way. ... It is one of the bigger hits you always seem to give the amp. ... That was a bit rude, just like your "ignore the B.S. ...
    (alt.guitar.amps)
  • Re: Early 60s Fender Super Reverb Head
    ... things like pots (usually, these are the most reliable, ... the output transformer in that amp is looking to see a 2-ohm ... Mode 4 or some other crapola high tech, ... Then tell Fascist Fart Valve to bugger off. ...
    (alt.guitar.amps)