Re: Loosened Truss Rod All The Way, Still Got Fret Buzz, Now What?



Rookie <rookie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in news:Xns972D18E04341F3jfk6@localhost:

> Lone Clapper <lone@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> I've got a 1977 Les Paul, pretty beat up, that I recently picked up
>> again after not playing it for maybe 5 - 7 years. It always had a bit
>> of fret buzz--which always annoyed me, but it wasn't bad enough for me
>> to freak out over.
>>
>> After I picked it up again, the fret buzz was pretty bad on every
>> string on every fret all over the neck. (It sat for about 7 years.)
>> So the first thing I did was raise the action to try to get rid of the
>> buzz. I raised the bridge to the max and I still had string buzz. So
>> the next step is to adjust the truss rod.
>>
>> I adjusted the truss rod maybe 1/8th of a turn counter-clockwise (to
>> loosen). Still buzzed. I adjusted it another 1/8 turn. It still
>> buzzed. I adjusted it about a 3/4 turn after that, at which point the
>> nut was completely loose, so it is loosened as far as it will go, I
>> assume. I retighened it just enough so the nut isn't sloppy loose.
>>
>> The fret buzz is gone all over EXCEPT on the high-E string. The
>> high-E still buzzes like crazy (even a slight buzz when open). It
>> gets worse as you go up the fretboard. Around the 12th fret it buzzes
>> so bad that the string hardly vibrates at all.
>>
>> I'm going to let it sit for a day or so to give the wood time to
>> adjust. Maybe that'll help. But if not, I'm wondering if maybe my
>> neck is twisted because it sat in the case for so long.
>>
>> Any thoughts? Any suggestions? It's pretty beat up, but otherwise a
>> great playing and great sounding guitar. So I'd like to keep it
>> around.
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance.
>>
>
> This doesn't sound like a truss rod adjustment problem. You should
> pinpoint the exact point responsible for buzzing, which might be a case
> of a lifted fret. Or even a case of a bend string (which has been the
> case when I was buying a used guitar once). But from your description I
> would also suspect a neck angle problem, or the fretboard has lifted.
>
> You don't want to add a truss rod problem to the existing ones :)

The exact point responsible for buzzing was the fret just ahead of the
fret I was playing on. If I was striking a note on the 3rd fret on the
high-E string, the 4th fret would buzz. If I was on the 10th fret, the
11th fret would buzz.

The neck angle isn't adjustable on a Les Paul.

The thing was that by raising the bridge, I got rid of the fret buzz on
the 2nd through 6th strings. But then the high-E buzzed. When I lowered
the bridge, there was no buzz on the high-E but all the other strings
buzzed.

I found a middle-ground where there is barely no buzz on the other
strings and only a slight buzz when striking the high-E hard.

I don't know what would cause such a thing. I'd think that by raising
the bridge I'd get more distance between the strings and frets and
eliminate the buzz. The when I raised the bridge the high-E started to
buzz!

.



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